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Firecracker123 Tue 14-May-19 15:08:33

A Party Political Broadcast on behalf of The Brexit Party is on BBC1
tonight 18.55pm.

Fennel Fri 07-Jun-19 18:32:07

James is the sole voice on LBC who is allowed to express anti-right opinion.
At least they allow one.

varian Fri 07-Jun-19 18:38:38

LBC actually employ liar Farage and give him his own regular show. Apparently being a highly paid MEP is not a full-time job as far as he's concerned.

Urmstongran Fri 07-Jun-19 18:43:12

There’s a good reason Nigel Farage has been busy trying to form EU alliances. Whitewave

Parties from across the EU are in a scrabble to form political alliances after May’s European elections.

Such groups get increased EU funding, influential posts and speaking time in the chamber. Non-affiliated parties get much less exposure and cash.

A group must have at least 25 MEPs with “political affinity” from at least seven different countries.

Mr Farage has been shuttling to and from Brussels to meet putative allies. He led the Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy (EFDD) group after the 2014 elections, entering into a pact with Italy’s anti-establishment Five Star Movement.

Between the two parties, they had more than enough MEPs to form a group and attracted a handful of politicians from five other countries to clear the threshold.

On Wednesday, Mr Farage ruled out joining Matteo Salvini and Marine Le Pen’s far-right and Eurosceptic Europe of Nations and Freedom group.

His focus is on reforming the EFDD, where he is, without question, the biggest fish in the pond.

Europhiles will pin their hopes on Eurosceptic parties being split between Mr Salvini and Mr Farage to such an extent that neither gets MEPs from enough different countries to form a group.

That is unlikely but it is another factor that Mr Farage must consider.

He is now at the head of 29 MEPs, making the Brexit Party the single largest party in the new parliament with Angela Merkel’s CDU-CSU.

Suitors would normally be banging on his door in Brussels begging to join forces but Brexit complicates matters. Once Britain leaves, so does its MEPs, which will weaken and could collapse the alliance.

Labaik Fri 07-Jun-19 19:28:54

Why are you so jubilant at the thought of the EU falling apart? sad

crystaltipps Fri 07-Jun-19 19:51:17

If leave voters truly believe the EU about to fall apart why are they making such a song and dance, dividing the country and spending billions on the tortuous process of leaving? If it falls apart any minute we wouldn’t have to persuade all those pesky remainers and we wouldn’t have to destroy our country in the process. There wouldn’t be an Eu to leave so we’d wouldn’t have to waste all these years arguing. Oh but they don’t know this is about to happen any minute do they? Plus they actively want to destroy it and pit one nation against another. Can’t have any of this cooperation can we?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 07-Jun-19 19:53:34

Very worrying

www.politico.eu/article/nigel-farage-brexit-party-start-up-politics-eu-election/

varian Fri 07-Jun-19 19:57:59

UKIP had members who were entitled to vote. That is normal in a democratic party. Unfortunately the members did not always vote the way their leader, liar Farage, wanted them to vote, so he jumped ship and has now set up the "brexit party" which is not a democratic party but a private company where "supporters" sign up, pay £25 and have no say in anything.

These fools give their money to liar Farage but can't decide on the policies, the leadership, or the candidates of this so-called party.

I have never, ever, suggested that all those who voted leave in 2016 are stupid but how stupid would you have to be to sign up to that?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 07-Jun-19 20:07:56

Very stupid

varian Sun 09-Jun-19 14:39:54

Meanwhile, liar Farage, who has frequently bemoaned the lack of money in politics, and not that long ago boasted about being "broke" is banking with Coutts, according to a report in The Times.

"He is the man of the people, often photographed holding a pint in a pub and smiling broadly. But Nigel Farage banks with Coutts, the 327-year-old private bank whose customers include the Queen, and has his mortgage there, according to the title deeds to his home in Westerham, Kent.

The bank has strict lending criteria that would enable only the wealthiest of clients to afford one of its mortgage products. Those wishing to take out a mortgage with Coutts must either have an annual income of at least £500,000, or a combination of savings, investments and loans with it, which can include the mortgage, of at least £1m."

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/everyman-farage-banks-with-coutts-09jkrm2k9

Labaik Sun 09-Jun-19 14:51:33

It's like a variation of the Dolly Parton comment only Farage's is 'I takes a lot of money to appear to be as poor as I am'...

jura2 Tue 02-Jul-19 10:45:47

Brexit Party MEPs refuse to stand up for the European Anthem, then turn their back on the young people playing it beautifully at the Opening of session for the EU Parliament.

Shameful and disgusting behaviour - and we are all being judged by the EU and the world on their behaviour. They refuse to engage in the work of the commissions, and will agree to pick up salary and pensions- just as Farage has been doing for so long.

Truly shameful - and those who voted for them share the shame, for sure. Disgusting and shows them up for what they are.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 02-Jul-19 10:47:38

Nothing to be proud of and everything to feel ashamed about.

What is happening to this country, it is being dragged down into the gutter

jura2 Tue 02-Jul-19 10:56:11

sorry, I see another thread on the very subject has been opened- may be stick to that one on this.

Urmstongran Sun 14-Jul-19 08:32:01

Now that Jeremy Corbyn has declared Labour wants a new referendum and would back Remain in a GE Nigel Farage said the Labour move was 'golden opportunity' for the Brexit Party!

Northern heartlands that voted heavily for Brexit could now be vulnerable

In the North-east, 35 per cent said they were less likely to back Labour due to its call for a second referendum.

The figure was 36 per cent in the West Midlands, 38 per cent in the East Midlands, 40 per cent in the N.W. and 43% in Yorkshire & the Humber.

The only region where the new policy has improved Labour’s chances is London.

I think the Labour party has betrayed its voters and has no chance at the next GE. The Brexit party, on the other hand, is going from strength to strength.

They offer hope to millions of disillusioned voters who are tired of the lies and chaos.

British politics is changing and the Brexit party is the key player.

This will be interesting if Boris doesn’t deliver and calls a GE (which I think will happen).

MaizieD Sun 14-Jul-19 08:40:59

Could you post a link to the source of your figures please, Ug?

Or tell us who was polled, and by whom?

If Johnson doesn't deliver

Can you clarify? What would indicate that he hasn't delivered? Going for another extension? Revoking A50?

Urmstongran Sun 14-Jul-19 08:57:05

The poll was conducted by The ComRes research for the Sunday Express MaizieD I don’t have a link, sorry.

Nitpicking poll results (who trusts ‘em anyway - they always have a bias) aside, NF seems jubilant.

He is quoted as saying “We are the only party committed to giving 17.4 million Leave voters what they voted for more than three years ago - a clean-break Brexit”

This is gonna be interesting!

And what I meant about Boris - I don’t think we will leave 31 October. He won’t go for No Deal it’s just a negotiating tool.

GracesGranMK3 Sun 14-Jul-19 09:21:55

If the most recent poll were extrapolated into seats the Brexit Party would gain 54 if it were to reach the requirements of a party. Labour would have the most seats but only as a minority government. However, that is just one day in July and a lot could change by the date of a general election.

Urmstongran Sun 14-Jul-19 09:26:29

54 new voices! Yay!

Add that to Cooper, Grieve and Soubry deselected (amongst others) and the HoC will reflect the result of the referendum so much more robustly!

Grandad1943 Sun 14-Jul-19 09:43:34

I fail to see how Fascist Farage will be able to appeal to the traditional Labour voters of the North of England in a General Election held under normal circumstances.

Farage has no time for the NHS, employee rights, Social Services and much more that working families of the north of England and elsewhere so much rely on.

However, if a General Election were forced on this shambles of a government due to Brexit remaining deadlocked in parliament, then Fascist Farage and his brown shirt supporters may get some support.

That stated, in any such General Election matters other than Brexit would come to the fore for debate, and in that Farage has no policies other than the above.

With Corbyn on his campaigning soapbox as in 2017 who knows how well the Labour Party may do.

However, I feel the Labour Party will not have Corbyn for much longer.

MaizieD Sun 14-Jul-19 09:45:02

^Nitpicking poll results (who trusts ‘em anyway -

So why did you post them?

54 new voices! Yay!

I agree that the 'new voices' may make parliament more representative of the population but what exactly would these voices represent? They have no policies. Unless, of course, you count Farage's fascist proposal to purge the civil service and the military of all unbelievers as a policy.

Urmstongran Sun 14-Jul-19 09:52:47

I posted them because it illustrates why Nigel Farage is delighted! He regards it as a ‘golden opportunity’ gifted to the Brexit Party by Labour.

MaizieD Sun 14-Jul-19 09:57:24

What happened to the verb 'to give'? sad

But that's by the by.

I shall have to investigate this poll further, it seems...

Grandad1943 Sun 14-Jul-19 10:00:05

Fascist Farage can HOPE that Labour has "gifted him an opportunity." However, Labour has NOT changed its Brexit policy brought about by last year's Delegate Conference. That policy would be pointed out far more firmly in any General Election campaign.

MaizieD Sun 14-Jul-19 10:17:14

The only recent Com Res Poll I can find, taken early July, says that 1 in 3 Brexit Party voters would vote tory if BJ were to become PM.

Urmstongran Sun 14-Jul-19 10:23:07

Why such strong language Grandad?

‘Fascist Farage’ indeed. Is that necessary do you think? I don’t say ‘Communist Corbyn’.

As Michelle Obama said ‘when they go down, we go up’.