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The answer is clear

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 27-May-19 06:11:37

35% Brexit

40% remain parties

However Farage spins it he DID NOT win the vote and people have indicated that a no deal is not what the country desires. They have no wish to see the U.K. to be ruined by this ideology being spouted by the hard right.

We are a people of moderation.

lemongrove Mon 27-May-19 08:43:48

All this adding together numbers ( feverishly) on the remain side is no good I’m afraid.You could equally add up all Labour and Conservative and Brexit Party votes, they all stand on leaving the EU.
This result has shownParliament that they have to seriously get on with it and leave the EU as soon as possible.

lemongrove Mon 27-May-19 08:48:47

All that was needed last night was to show that people who had previously voted leave were decamping to the BP from the main two parties, .......
and that just happened.

Urmstongran Mon 27-May-19 08:50:25

Well poor Chuka Umunna’s lot is dead in the water. His face late last night. Oh dear, he backed the wrong horse.

If Remain want to add votes up to show a ‘win’ then definitely the Brexit Party can add the Tory votes as ‘Leave’.

Not so sure about the Labour vote though!

Poppyred Mon 27-May-19 08:55:12

I turned to Gransnet this morning thinking the Brexit whitewash vote would shut up the remainders for ever. How stupid am I? They have twisted it around again so that everyone who didn’t for the Brexit party are all remainders apparently????? ???

Urmstongran Mon 27-May-19 08:56:33

Exactly Poppyred ??

NotSpaghetti Mon 27-May-19 09:03:13

Clearly we WERE split, and are STILL split.
Maybe May’s horrible deal is the only fair option.
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Anniebach Mon 27-May-19 09:03:28

Urmstongran the Labour Party is unsure

Nico97 Mon 27-May-19 09:04:52

Well said Urmstongran and Poppyred . As the old saying goes, there's none so blind as them that can't see

Kandinsky Mon 27-May-19 09:09:37

Agree op, the answer is clear.

The Brexit party did amazingly well!!

In fact, I’m all for a 2nd referendum now as leave would smash it.

Liz46 Mon 27-May-19 09:10:07

I totally agree with the last few posts.

BlueBelle Mon 27-May-19 09:10:40

Hardly a whitewash a ‘party’ with what manifesto ? As always Farage is a one horse pony and look what happened to his former party he’s good at revving up the troops but has nothing intelligent to give when they are all on board He appeals to the far right and the rebel rousers
Remainers know where they are well off and when not to commit suicide and are ever hopeful that the rest will catch on before long
Remember how popular Hitler was

We are still a bitterly divided country and won’t heal in my lifetime unfortunately

Urmstongran Mon 27-May-19 09:14:01

Nigel Farage's party got 16% in Scotland - bit of an eye opener isn't it? Libdems didn't get much more than that nationwide and they are being treated as major victors!
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eazybee Mon 27-May-19 09:15:28

People are forgetting that the British election was on Thursday, when Theresa May was still Prime Minister; many of the votes cast were protest votes, and the result is her legacy.

Jane10 Mon 27-May-19 09:17:13

It's as much of a mess as ever. No wonder Theresa had such a struggle for some sort of compromise.

BlueBelle Mon 27-May-19 09:17:40

How any sane person can be fooled by that beer swilling arrogant liar is beyond me but as I say he who shouts loudest gets the biscuit but as the old saying goes empty vessels make the most noise

Liz46 Mon 27-May-19 09:18:43

I'm surprised the remainers did not add in all the people who didn't vote to their total.

Anniebach Mon 27-May-19 09:19:44

Agree Jane10

Liz46 Mon 27-May-19 09:20:28

Yes, I voted Brexit but do have reservations about Nigel Farage but my opinion of politicians in general is at an all time low. I suspect I am not the only one.

jura2 Mon 27-May-19 09:22:56

The only thing that is clear, is that the country is more divided than ever- and that whatever happens - almost half are going to be totally disenfranchised to the point of being angry.

The other clear thing is that, the only way to ensure that the proportions become 60+ to 40- is for all remain parties to form a strong alliance and ensure they strategically boost the vote for remain - and for LP to convince Corbyn to either go, or to look at the current situation and come off the fence and make a very strong case for PV, explaining what we know now, about the Irish border, about WTO, about the clear fact that it is LP members and supporters who will be the biggest victims- and the tiny percentage and massive fraud and lies. With conviction and unity, the LP can make a really strong irrefutable case for changing direction.

EllanVannin Mon 27-May-19 09:28:22

These were protest votes and the whole thing was a farce IMHO. A GE will sort it out.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 27-May-19 09:38:44

Farage agreed that remain got the most votes

paddyann Mon 27-May-19 09:44:25

Scotland Wales and likley NI (no result yet) voted REMAIN parties only ENGLAND wants to leave ..why should the rest of us be dragged out against our will? Of course its how it always was Westminster the bully thinks it owns us ..but times and people change .WE WANT OUR VOICES HEARD .

Luckygirl Mon 27-May-19 09:50:53

The results reflect the confusion that our governance is in. And indeed the EU itself which bizarrely has seen a rise in anti-EU MEPs, which seems a bit of a contradiction in terms.

I have always been a bit on the fence as regards the EU, which has brought obvious benefits to some of the members, but has serious flaws, which are becoming more obvious and fuelling a backlash, not just in the UK. I find the whole scenario very worrying indeed.

I feel that the EU needs to wake up its listening skills and be more adaptable or the right wing hardliners will start to win the day, to the benefit of no-one at all.

One of my reservations about the EU from the beginning has been the old adage that the worst acts of violence occur within families rather than outside - trying to contain squabbling among 28 nations is a huge ask; whereas maintaining cordial but slightly distant relationships is sometimes easier.

I do not know what the answer is; but I am clear that it is not as simple as some would have us believe.

BlueBelle Mon 27-May-19 10:05:56

You need to look beyond the headlines though don’t you Just been looking at the ‘WHITEWASH’ results that some have posted about
I think we can all agree Brexit is the new UKIP and the leave group whereas Lib Dem’s and Green are the main remainers with Conservative and labour so effed up they are almost non existent
UKIP lost all 23 seats so Brexit just gained back UKIPs lost seats plus 5 whilst Lib Dem gained 14 seats and greens 4 which means Remain gained 18 seats and Leave gained 5

Mycatisahacker Mon 27-May-19 10:12:10

the answer is clear

That’s the funniest line I have heard so far wink