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The next General Election

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WishIwasyounger Thu 26-Sep-19 20:26:24

As I'm new to GN, I'm wondering what the political landscape is like on here, and which way would GN'ers vote at the next GE which can't be far away. As a left leaning free thinker I'll probably go for Green or Lib Dem, but things are so fluid at the moment. No way would I vote Tory, and I'm not convinced that Labour can persuade enough middle of the road voters, even though I agree with many of their policies.

Sara65 Fri 27-Sep-19 07:41:22

Whitewavemark2

That’s what I’m expecting

Urmstongran Fri 27-Sep-19 08:33:59

And me. I suppose what might happen though is that some MP’s will get deselected as their views in the HoC don’t chime with their constituents by a long country mile - Anna Soubry, Yvette Cooper, Jess Phillips, Dominic Grieve etc. etc.

A shake up in the dynamic of Parliament might sort out the logjam.

kittylester Fri 27-Sep-19 08:46:52

I think it is arrogant of Lib Dems to revoke Article 50 without a 2nd referendum. I dont see how we can move forward without one whoever is in government.

Amagran Fri 27-Sep-19 08:51:53

I think we will see a lot of tactical voting by those who cannot bear the thought of Johnson and/or Corbyn.

Not sure why there is so much venom on GN about the LibDems - their sins are little more than compromises forced on them by the Conservatives. The coalition was not ideal, but better than the alternatives - IMHO!

I shall vote LibDem as being the best way to oust our sitting Tory, however it would take a seismic change in voting intentions to unseat him. My natural home is the pre-Corbyn Labour party. I could not vote Labour currently.

growstuff Fri 27-Sep-19 09:02:21

Why are the LibDems arrogant? Almost half of those who voted in the referendum didn't want Article 50. The LibDems are targeting those people. If you want to revoke Article 50, vote LibDem. If you don't and/or think there's another solution, don't vote LibDem. It's quite simple really. The LibDems are being honest about what they're selling. If you don't like it, go elsewhere. I don't see how that is arrogant.

growstuff Fri 27-Sep-19 09:03:55

Deselection is likely to result in more hard-line MPs in both Conservative and Labour parties, so could end up with more moderates, perhaps the LibDems.

Anniebach Fri 27-Sep-19 09:12:00

I have changed my mind, I will vote for Libs, this has been a Tory seat since the seventies, Libs only won the by election because the Greens and Plaid Cymru didn’t put up a candidate to keep the Tory out. Labour has come 2nd at every
election since the seventies, at the by election they nearly lost
their deposit.

Amagran Fri 27-Sep-19 09:21:19

Yes, growstuff, I agree about the LibDems and their honesty. A clear message of intent, no fence-sitting or multiple factions.

Granniesunite Fri 27-Sep-19 09:23:06

SNP for me. I'm not prepared to listen to a man that has a history of lying, lying every time he opens his mouth. Imp when your brother and sister express unease at his "reasoning" you listen to that. He's shown us what he is. Is clear to me anyway that he's copying trump . I want no truck with that kind of behaviour.

Sara65 Fri 27-Sep-19 09:30:01

The trouble is Granniesunite, wherever you look, you see the same untrustworthy, lying politicians, I voted to remain, but the vile behaviour of some remainers has made me ashamed, I just can’t see any light at the end of the tunnel.

Grany Fri 27-Sep-19 09:37:36

I will vote for Labour because of Jeremy Corbyn Thousands of younger people joined Labour because of Corbyn.

Really great transformative polices that people are crying out for.

The green revolution that creates thousands of jobs.

Properly fund our NHS we all want an NHS dont we, not privatised, based on the American model?

To establish a publicly owned pharmaceutical company able to supply low-cost medicines to the NHS.

But the most far-reaching reform – to be explored through feasibility studies and pilots at first – is the introduction of an entirely new innovation incentive model. Known as “delinkage”, it comprises a suite of prize funds and grants that would allow the public to steer research priorities, rewarding the innovation we truly need while keeping drug prices low through generic competition.

Properly fund schools
Loads more polices for the many

Jo Swinson Lib Dem backed the Tory austerity programme to the hilt and has still said we need to tighten our belts.

No way would I Ike to see her as PM heaven forbid

Granniesunite Fri 27-Sep-19 09:44:02

Yes I agree. Most of them are untrustworthy. But it had been proven Mr Johnson is untrustworthy and still he lies. His ego is through the roof. I think he's a dangerous politician. His can we teach our youngsters the true value of honesty, integrity kindness but still support the opposite in public life! He's immoral.IMO and I can't forget all the decent hisenst brave folks that have gone before him. They'll be turning in their graves.

Framilode Fri 27-Sep-19 10:49:49

I shall vote Liberal though the constituency I live in is safe tory. I have mostly voted Labour all my life but did vote for Cameron. I cannot bring myself to vote for the present Labour party. They are as much to blame for the present situation as the government is. Hopeless government and hopeless oposition.

Grany Fri 27-Sep-19 11:22:06

The Brexit chaos is all the fault of the Tories and only them.

Labaik Fri 27-Sep-19 13:02:35

My dream is to have some sort of coalition; Labour/Lib/Dem/SNP with Keir Starmer as leader.

Ilovecheese Fri 27-Sep-19 15:01:41

When I first joined Gransnet there seemed to be about an equal number and left and right wing views on the politics forums.
Then about a year ago I felt as if there were hardly any left wingers.
Then just recently I have seen a few more left wing voices.

Whether this reflects the views of the country I have no idea.

Anniebach Fri 27-Sep-19 15:05:28

I am against the SNP being part of a coalition , are there SNP
members in England N.Ireland, Wales ?

PernillaVanilla Fri 27-Sep-19 15:05:47

I'll be voting labour as our MP is wonderful, unlike his conservative opposite who supports hunting and the badger cull. Whilst I don't think Corbyn would make a good PM I was very impressed by the policy shaping sessions that John McDonell took around the country inviting local people to become involved in policy creation.

Anniebach Fri 27-Sep-19 15:13:29

John MacDonald if/when he becomes chancellor has said he will give the keys of the official chancellors residence - 11 Downing Street to a homeless family.

I so detest this nonsense yet some will applaud him. He owns
2 properties but hasn’t offered one to a homeless family.

Urmstongran Fri 27-Sep-19 15:37:28

Ah well Anniebach those 2 are his. No. 11 belongs to the nation sohes happy to lend ‘our’ property out!!

Anniebach Fri 27-Sep-19 15:48:11

Urmston. Wonder how much the rent will be for a mansion ?

lemongrove Fri 27-Sep-19 15:51:21

Annie ?A magnanimous gesture on the part of Old McDonald.....but would a homeless family really want a set of keys? grin

Urmstongran Fri 27-Sep-19 15:53:48

Oh it’d be a peppercorn rent Annie x

humptydumpty Fri 27-Sep-19 15:54:02

Labaik - I'm absolutely with you.

Labaik Fri 27-Sep-19 16:13:21

To be fair to McDonnell ( and I don't really like the man)I think his comment regarding no 11 was said slightly tongue in cheek.