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The Queen’s Speech today

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Urmstongran Mon 14-Oct-19 09:36:14

Pomp and

Her Majesty will be reading out the Government’s programme for the next 12 months with no real expectation on the part of her ministers that any of the proferred legislation will be enacted.

When the Queen says today that “my Government will” introduce this statute or amend that law, everyone will know the chances of it doing so are vanishingly small.

Amid all the defections and suspensions of Conservative MPs, Boris Johnson is at least 40 votes short of a majority and could well lose the main division on the Queen’s Speech, the first prime minister to do so in almost 100 years.

But the reality behind today’s announcements is that, until there is a general election, a new Parliament and a conclusion to Brexit, the current political paralysis will continue!

Gonegirl Thu 17-Oct-19 14:13:13

(I didn't report that post btw)

Gonegirl Thu 17-Oct-19 14:12:18

I will shut up now. flowers

Gonegirl Thu 17-Oct-19 14:09:51

I'm sorry. I didn't know you needed helping up.

Gonegirl Thu 17-Oct-19 14:09:04

There are several ways you could read that carton. I still like the idea that the Queen has requested the horse muck to be collected for her roses. Or, your interpretation could be correct.

I suppose it was the It's time we went Republic and had a true democracy instead of this farce with hypocritical kowtowing to an unelected bunch of royal millionaire that gave me the idea you are not a fan of the Queen.

Jaxie Thu 17-Oct-19 13:46:52

Of course it's not a joke against the Queen: the cartoonist is in sympathy with her because of the way she has been manipulated by Boris Johnson. Why do some Gransnetters have to score off by suggesting people don't get the joke. People who put others down generally do it because they have a superiority complex. You should never look down on anyone unless you are helping them up Gonegirl.

paddyann Wed 16-Oct-19 19:02:39

You do know that old saying ?"he who pays the piper calls the tune"Well as long as Lizzie has her hand out for cash from goverment of any hue she has to do what they say .

Gonegirl Wed 16-Oct-19 18:52:55

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2019/oct/15/steve-bells-if-cleaning-up-the-mess-after-the-queens-speech

I don't think it's a joke against the queen at all. More against parliament perhaps.

Gonegirl Wed 16-Oct-19 18:47:22

Oh! Because you didn't get the joke. Ok.

Gonegirl Wed 16-Oct-19 18:44:45

Why am I a patronising bitch? confused

Jaxie Wed 16-Oct-19 18:22:17

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GrannyGravy13 Wed 16-Oct-19 09:30:18

Ceremonial robes are extremely heavy and although the "Diadem" is not as heavy as "The Crown" it will still weigh more than a hat. She was in a reading position, I suggest you look at your profile when reading or on electronic gadgets.

The following day she was in her everyday wear, less weight, knee length dress and jacket, much more comfortable and easy to move in.

Queen Elizabeth II is 93, doing remarkably well.

grapefruitpip Wed 16-Oct-19 09:25:09

Maybe it was the weight of the robes, she didn't feel well, something outside our knowledge ( where is Phillip these days?)

Nobody knows. But I do feel I am entitled to make an observation, share a thought without such rudeness coming my way.

jura2 Wed 16-Oct-19 09:16:33

Calendar Girl - she was bent over on Speech Day, nice and straight the next day at Westminster- is the point - totally different posture and body language for 2 separate occasions.

merlotgran Tue 15-Oct-19 23:14:12

I was amazed she was able to walk up the few steps to the throne without holding on to Charles.

Gonegirl Tue 15-Oct-19 22:48:39

I bet those ceremonial robes are heavy too. She's bound to look more bent over than she does in a normal loose fitting coat.

Calendargirl Tue 15-Oct-19 22:23:54

The Queen was ‘bent over’ yesterday? The woman is 93, maybe she has a bad back, osteoporosis, dowager’s hump, whatever.
I am nowhere near 93, but often catch myself looking ‘bent over’ if I glance in a shop window or mirror.
Goodness knows what I ‘ll be like when I’m her age, if I make it that far, but if I look half as good I’ll be happy.

jura2 Tue 15-Oct-19 21:45:05

any link?

Deedaa Tue 15-Oct-19 21:44:46

To all the people complaining about the cost of all the ceremonial, do you think it would be any different if we were a republic? Do you really think that President Johnson or Corbyn wouldnt jump at the chance of ermine and glitter and a procession through the streets?

varian Tue 15-Oct-19 21:39:23

The Tory party has sent out to its branches election propaganda leaflets assuming the election will happen after October 31st when we are still in the EU.

jura2 Tue 15-Oct-19 21:24:59

Not sombre, but very official and 'sober' - but there was no need for that bent over body posture and 'sombre' look.

Oopsminty Tue 15-Oct-19 21:19:12

Isn't the Queen's Speech always a sombre affair? I thought she sounded/looked much the same as she has done on previous occasions. She's not going to be beaming and smiling.

GracesGranMK3 Tue 15-Oct-19 21:18:49

Sadly you must feel a very underwhelming person Gonegirl if you thought I was trying to be clever. You, on the other hand, do not have to make any effort, it seems, to be rude.

jura2 Tue 15-Oct-19 21:16:00

varian ''She is expert at hiding her feelings and carrying on regardless.''

normally, I'd say yes, and yet - look at the change between today and yesterday- yesterday she was bent and hesitant, looking in pain, face broken, voice broken. Today she was straight, relaxed, face opened and smiling - a different person for 2 very different occasions. Clear.

Oopsminty Tue 15-Oct-19 21:13:49

I love Jerusalem. We had it at my much loved Mother's funeral last year.

She loved it. I doubt she thought to much about its meaning. It's a beautiful.

Gonegirl Tue 15-Oct-19 21:08:58

gracesgran Jerusalem was sung at the funeral of someone close to me. You weren't to know that. You touched a nerve.

But yes, I have always felt the same about the questions put. It is still very beautiful though.