Big Ben Can Bong For Brexit

Yes hallelujah ? of course Big Ben should chime, it should be a national holiday.

It will be in this house!!!??????

''jura will you be travelling from SWITZERLAND to protest about something the UK government is doing?''

YES- because it affects us hugely- thanks.

Im so happy to live in a democracy ?? oh dear oh dear oh dear I don’t feel we live in a democracy any more I don’t recognise this country any more the result has been achieved through lies lies and more lies and the country is every bit as divided as three years ago
How can we have freedom of choice when half the population not to mention half the four countries within the UK have been pulled along kicking and screaming with the ‘majority’
A poster on here the other day said they voted for Brexit not knowing that the money we paid in came back in the form of grants etc and she went on to say most of her friends were the same ?
I personally will NEVER be happy about turning our back on the rest of our cousins in Europe and for what ? it’s absolutely nothing to rejoice about and rubbing people’s noses in it by chiming out will only cause more bad feeling
jennifereccles what was bad being part of the EU? I ve never understood the xenophobic point of view

How weird, how very weird. Why on earth are people getting excited about this?

Because it's a signal that we are finally leaving the EU, although if you voted to remain you will probably be crying ? lol.

With the country so divided, this will not help with that 'healing' process- a gloating red rag, for sure- and will cause trouble, for sure.

I was just thinking that, jura. 50% of the people and 3/5 countries will not be celebrating and will just have their noses rubbed in it. Added to which it will be broadcast throughout the world and everyone will think this is what we all want #notinmyname

Well, I think a big demo to make it plain that this is the case, is in order ...

www.hansardsociety.org.uk/blog/who-is-in-charge-of-the-palace-of-westminster-big-ben-and-parliamentary

It is a queer on this. The above link raises the question who has the 'say'.

I would prefer not to see nor hear any activities that could be deemed as some sort of jubilation or bombast, merely my opinion obviously and I accept others have theirs.

I think it is a time to remain dignified and respectful of the fact there is a hell of a lot of hard work and negotiations that require a little sensitivity and pragmatism for the right outcome to benefit both the UK and the European Union.

As for those calling for ' demos' and talk of some sort of rebellion that is by far worse than ringing the bells of Big Ben as a proposal, not even on the same scale.

That is all that is left I suppose for those who cannot accept what has happened politically.

jura what makes you think you have the right to interfere with the decisions made by the government of an country different to the one you live in - that is why the majority voted to leave the EU because we are tired of people living in another country thinking they have that right.

From a friend today ''"Bercow was too partisan and that we needed a more neutral Speaker.... by right-wing liars.''

oh yes. And for goodness sake, will you desist with this 'left' mallarkie (sp???) - remainers do not reperesent 'the left'.

Ringing the bells of Big Ben- as to celebrate the end of a war which saved the country is nothing else than gloating by a minority- in a very divided country which is not going to heal for a very long time, if ever.

WadesNan, I am British and have the right to vote and so is my OH- we have given our life to work for this country- the fact we are not currently there (well actually we are right now) is irrelevant. We belong to the great majority who did NOT vote for Conservatives.

WadesNan Sun 22-Dec-19 17:30:23
jura what makes you think you have the right to interfere with the decisions made by the government of an country different to the one you live in - that is why the majority voted to leave the EU because we are tired of people living in another country thinking they have that right.

EITHER we live in a democracy, or we don't. Personally, I believe the latter.

BUT if you believe we ARE a democracy, which all the Leavers seem to feel we are, then a protest fits in very well with that theory. If we're democratic, then freedom of speech and freedom of protest are allowed.

I suspect those that are happy about Brexit want it BOTH ways. They want the Brexit vote respected but want to deny those who want to protest that right too.

BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR. Restricting right to protest is very far-right. It's how it started under the Nazis.

Especially as Big Ben is in London where most voted to remain,it's so offensive!

Especially as Big Ben is in London where most voted to remain,it's so offensive!

Then maybe we need to have all the church bells in all the leave constituencies to ring out instead then? London can remain in silence.

oh dear oh dear oh dear I don’t feel we live in a democracy any more I don’t recognise this country any more the result has been achieved through lies lies and more lies and the country is every bit as divided as three years ago

I feel exactly the same way, having been pulled along b y the minority for the last three years. I have lost nearly all faith in democracy.

Democracy is what the majority decide. If you want to protest against it thats fine but to try and stop it is not fine.

What exactly is there to celebrate ie years and years of negotiations...…?

Yes leave us Londoners alone. We don’t want it . And those in Scotland and NI. Have your bells out in the Toryshires and get leavers out in Wetherspoons with their microwaved readymeals and warm beer. Enjoy.

And, can I just say, I'm sick and tired of all the nasty comments aimed at jura who has, along with her husband, pretty much devoted her life to this country. However, that is disregarded because, in many eyes she's just a 'furrnier'......

...bloody racist imo….

Ringing the bells of Big Ben is hardly something to protest about.

Jura you may have been born here but you choose to live in another country - so why do you feel you have the right to dictate to those to choose to live here. I used to own a property in Spain I didn't think that gave me the right to dictate to the Spanish. Do you vote in Switzerland AND UK?

"although if you voted to remain you will probably be crying ? lol."

I accepted that the country is leaving the EU the day after the referendum. That doesn't mean I think it's a good idea. In fact, I still think it's a really bad decision. Nevertheless, what's happened has happened.

What really makes me mad is the gloating by people who think they've "won" something, call for some kind of unity and then laugh because others have "lost". Quite frankly, it just shows how pathetic and shallow such people are.

I was not born here, thanks. Did you take Spanish nationality.
I came to UK in 1970, became British in 1973 - lived in the UK for 40 years. Is that enough for you. OH was also born abroad, but British, and came in 1948 - is that not enough for you?

Irrelevant if you like ti or not- that is the LAW- British Law, so that is enough for me.