Does anyone else think that at the next General Election...

Here’s the link
www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/billions-loaned-to-firms-based-in-tax-havens/10/07/

suziewoozie

Hummm - what’s socialist about the billions given to firms based in tax havens? Many other countries limited financial help to countries registered and paying taxes in the country giving out the money.

If the above preserves jobs in Britain at this time then it is justified.

Yet more negativity.

Grandad I'm sorry but most of those 3 million who received nothing do not have complicated incomes. The only people who have complicated incomes are the rich.

Dinahmo

Grandad I'm sorry but most of those 3 million who received nothing do not have complicated incomes. The only people who have complicated incomes are the rich.

The government have paid eighty percent of the wages and salaries of nine and a half million workers in Britain for more than four months in this unprecedented crisis. That is true socialism in practice.

In regard to the self-employed, many have found work in this crisis by way of working in food distribution centres, household food delivery, supermarkets and even in food manufacturing, all of which have been requiring many extra employees throughout this crisis.

Two of the drivers that have delivered our grocery orders from Tesco in recent weeks have said they were self employed, but when the Covid-19 crisis struck they immediately obtained work with the Supermarket chain.

Where there is a will there is a way.

Well said Grandad1943, nice to hear someone showing some appreciation for the help this government are giving to those going through difficult times at the moment.
Of course, whatever they do, it will never please some folks.

It will never please those who have been completely left out, like those who were self employed for less than a year or those who were just about to start a new job.

Why should anyone be pleased about getting no help from the government when they really needed it?

ladymuck

Well said Grandad1943, nice to hear someone showing some appreciation for the help this government are giving to those going through difficult times at the moment.
Of course, whatever they do, it will never please some folks.

Unfortunately, the government "forgot" three million people and still won't do anything about them.

Grandad1943

Dinahmo

Grandad I'm sorry but most of those 3 million who received nothing do not have complicated incomes. The only people who have complicated incomes are the rich.

The government have paid eighty percent of the wages and salaries of nine and a half million workers in Britain for more than four months in this unprecedented crisis. That is true socialism in practice.

In regard to the self-employed, many have found work in this crisis by way of working in food distribution centres, household food delivery, supermarkets and even in food manufacturing, all of which have been requiring many extra employees throughout this crisis.

Two of the drivers that have delivered our grocery orders from Tesco in recent weeks have said they were self employed, but when the Covid-19 crisis struck they immediately obtained work with the Supermarket chain.

Where there is a will there is a way.

There will always be some who don’t ‘fit’ with all the help given by government, Sunak said as much at the outset.
If you had started your own business less than a year ago for instance.
You just have to get on and do whatever you can do for the next year, until things change if there is a vaccine.Until you find a job there is unemployment benefit.Nothing is ideal, but it’s not an ideal year!

growstuff Quote [Unfortunately, the government "forgot" three million people and still won't do anything about them.] End Quote.

Many Self-employed persons who have not been able to obtain government assistance for various reasons have always been able, and still are at liberty to procure employment throughout this crisis in the supermarkets, retail food distribution centres, grocery home delivery and even food manufacturing.

The above industries have been recruiting temporary employees continuously over the last four months, with many self-employed people finding themselves such work.

It would seem that many self employed people that are at present complaining they have "fell through the net" do not want to move out of their comfort zone to find alternative employment even temporarily.

There is still plenty of work in the above sector(s) should anyone wish to simply seek it out.

Many of those self employed aren't capable of doing work such as shelf stacking or driving vans for supermarkets. You may be fit and healthy but many aren't. Under lockdown there wasn't a great deal of employment around.

People who are furloughed can get up to 80% of their salary. Many of them are likely to have rental properties. They may even be receiving pensions. Should not that income reduce their furloughed income?

For the self employed the first grant payable was the lower of 80% of your profits or £7500. For the second grant the maximum is £6750. These are grants and will be taxed as part of this year's income.

I suspect that some of you think that anybody who is self employed makes large profits. Most of them don't. My own practice is unusual in that I deal mainly with artists and artisans and I can assure you that around 80% of my clients' profits are under £20,000 and they work very hard to earn those profits.

Dinahmo, in regard to your post @13:24 today you state that "Under lockdown there wasn't a great deal of employment around".

The above is simply not fact. When lockdown first struck all the food and drink sold through pubs, restaurants, cafes etc was immediately transferred to the supermarket chains being they were the only major retailers allowed to remain open.

Those that were employed in the above lockdown retail outlets did not require the work that was, and still is, on offer by the supermarket chains as they were on furlough with eighty percent of their salaries being paid by the government.

Therefore there has been throughout this crisis a large amount of employment on offer by large chain food retailers that often they have not been able to fill.

Obviously, to work in a large supermarket distribution centre a prospective employee requires a good degree of physical fitness, but plenty of employment has been available within the supermarkets themselves that does not require such high fitness.

Such work has included checkout operation, organising social distancing queues and collecting trollies etc.

I would state again that where there has been a will there has always been a way for self-employed persons throughout this crisis.