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Jeremy Corbyn suspended from Labour Party

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GrannyGravy13 Thu 29-Oct-20 13:35:00

According to the Guardian on line 1.08pm

A spokesman for the Labour Party said today "In light of comments made today and his failure to retract them subse, the Labour Party has suspended Jeremy. Robyn pending investigation.

He has also had the whip removed from the Parliamentary Labour Party.

This is after the release of the antisemitism report.

trisher Thu 29-Oct-20 14:02:02

He is not anti-semitic and all the allegations are ridiculous. The report does not say he is anti-semitic. It does say, and his statement supports this, that there were elements in the party which actively hindered the handling of anti-semitic complaints. It's not the outspoken and obvious supporters of Palestinians who should be feared it is the people who work in the background pursuing their own agendas, because they consider democracy is something they can influence and manipulate for their own ends. How many with the same opinions still remain as officials of the party is unknown.

Grany Thu 29-Oct-20 14:03:07

The EHRC investigated 70 complaints of anti-Semitism and found the Labour Party responsible for unlawful harassment against Jewish people in only two.

That’s too many – but it was not enough to justify claims of “institutional” anti-Semitism, so the report has concluded that those claims were false.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Oct-20 14:03:28

I don’t hate Corbyn. Never have. I regret my initial support of him and the fact that I initially closed my eyes to the problem.

Anniebach Thu 29-Oct-20 14:03:46

Integrity and Corbyn ?

Attending the wreath laying ceremony in Tunis - ‘I was there but I don’t know if I was involved’

Hugging the member of Momentum after that member had
verbally attacked Ruth Smeeth and caused her to run out from
the meeting in distress .

Supporting an anti Semitic wall mural then saying - ‘I didn’t
look at it closely ‘.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Oct-20 14:05:51

Corbyn is history.

We must move forward.

GagaJo Thu 29-Oct-20 14:07:30

I honestly can't be bothered to argue with you Annie. All of the instances you reference (and will later bang on about) have been twisted and manipulated by MSM. If you want active bigotry, look no further than CP.

Grany, exactly. But the attackers won't let the truth get in the way of a hatchet job.
The EHRC investigated 70 complaints of anti-Semitism and found the Labour Party responsible for unlawful harassment against Jewish people in only two.

That’s too many – but it was not enough to justify claims of “institutional” anti-Semitism, so the report has concluded that those claims were false.

GagaJo Thu 29-Oct-20 14:08:06

I agree with that WWM.

But that doesn't mean he should be cut out of the party he has supported all his life.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 29-Oct-20 14:08:22

I hope that the Labour Party can now move forward, implement the report recommendations and be a strong opposition party.

Grany Thu 29-Oct-20 14:09:00

Well Said trisher Starmer is very pro Israel and making out Labour has antisemitism problem Its him and the like that's the problem not the supporters of Palestinians

eazybee Thu 29-Oct-20 14:09:16

In response to (among others):
There are others far more responsible for what happened who should be removed and legal action taken against them.

They just want him out. He was under attack while leader, and only the strength of grassroots support protected him.

He is suspended because of today's comments, no other reason.

GagaJo Thu 29-Oct-20 14:10:41

Grany, if Starmer is pro Israel, Labour will lose my vote.

Anniebach Thu 29-Oct-20 14:10:57

Gagajo I have repeated what he said in interviews , the Ruth
Smeeth incident is on utube and I did watched it live

GagaJo Thu 29-Oct-20 14:11:50

Not responding Annie.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Oct-20 14:13:06

I just seen Corbyn maintaining that he had set up a clear and strong complaints process, but this is in direct contradiction to the reports findings which stated that

“An effective and transparent complaints process is critical to building trust with members and the general public, yet the Labour Party’s response to antisemitism complaints has been inconsistent, poor, and lacking in transparency. This is in direct contrast to the Party’s response to sexual harassment complaints, which includes a clear policy and procedure, guidance to complainants about what sexual harassment is, access to an independent specialist advice service and a dedicated portal for making a complaint.“

trisher Thu 29-Oct-20 14:14:14

Anniebach Those points are untrue and have been debated endlessly on GN you have a biased post of view. There is no evidence that it was anti-semitic to attend that ceremony, Ruth Smeeth's verbal attacker claimed he didn't know she was Jewish and the wall mural was only anti-semitic if you accepted cetain views of the images, views the artist has contested.
But feel free to condemn a man whose mother was one of the Cable Street demonstrators .
Here;s some of his record on anti-semitism
In 1990, he stood behind concerns about the “dissemination of antisemitic and racist materials” and challenged the lack of prosecution over sharing known antisemitic publications.
Corbyn signed an Early Day Motion (EDM) in 2003 condemning “terrorist, anti-Semitic attacks” against two synagogues. This EDM also criticised: “a dramatic increase in anti-Semitic incidents against the UK Jewish community and… rise in support for the BNP”. It ‘rejected’ “those who cynically exploit differences of opinion over Israel and Palestine to promote anti-semitism”. The EDM called for the government to “institute a zero tolerance policy to combat anti-Semitism, Islamophobia and racism in all its forms”.
In 2009 he signed an EDM to challenge the rise of antisemitism in UK universities.
He also signed an EDM criticising online antisemitism in the same year.
In 2013, Corbyn signed an EDM to condemn “all forms of racism and anti-Semitism in sport”
Corbyn has also frequently stood against far-right and neo-nazi groups, especially when their action may threaten Jewish people. Boyle lists another seven examples of Corbyn’s stand against antisemitism and racism.

Callistemon Thu 29-Oct-20 14:15:32

Corbyn is responsible as leader and he should have offered his resignation regardless of any other issue.

Well said Whitewave, as the saying goes "The buck stops here". It was ultimately his responsibility and he failed or turned a blind eye.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Oct-20 14:15:38

“We remain concerned that the current process does not ensure fair and transparent sanctioning of antisemitism complaints, and fails to implement the recommendations of previous reports.”

Clearly there is work still to be done.

trisher Thu 29-Oct-20 14:16:39

Whitewavemark2 how do you set up an effective complaints procedure when there are people in high office acting against you?

Galaxy Thu 29-Oct-20 14:18:42

Well you monitor the email set up to receive complaints for a start.

Janpt Thu 29-Oct-20 14:18:48

Anniebach

Integrity and Corbyn ?

Attending the wreath laying ceremony in Tunis - ‘I was there but I don’t know if I was involved’

Hugging the member of Momentum after that member had
verbally attacked Ruth Smeeth and caused her to run out from
the meeting in distress .

Supporting an anti Semitic wall mural then saying - ‘I didn’t
look at it closely ‘.

Well said. The best decision Starmer has made so far even though it was probably a ploy to increase his own popularity.

Callistemon Thu 29-Oct-20 14:19:13

you have a biased post of view

trisher I have agreed with you a lot lately but I do think there are some who have a biased point of view as far as Corbyn is concerned and did exactly what he may be guilty of, ie if not acting illegally then turning a blind eye

icanhandthemback Thu 29-Oct-20 14:19:15

Personally I think it had to happen. By doing so, they give Corbyn a chance to properly defend himself to the Party machine and Keir Starmer gets a chance to show he is a good leader. If the Labour Party is as good as some think it is, they will be able to follow due process and come out at the end with the right result. You don't have to be Pro-Israel to think that anti-semitism is abominable.

Callistemon Thu 29-Oct-20 14:21:35

suspended not expelled.
There is a difference.

dragonfly46 Thu 29-Oct-20 14:21:37

Thank goodness is all I can say.

Iam64 Thu 29-Oct-20 14:22:58

The report found the Labour Party had breached the equality act in unlawful harassment and indirect discrimination towards the Jewish community.

Isn't that serious enough? Support for the Palestinian cause is not anti semitic. Disliking the current Israeli government isn't anti semitic. Yet we have one poster saying that Starmer is "very pro Israel" , and other who responds that if that's so, they'll never vote Labour again. The muddle between anti semitism and opposition to the actions of the current Israeli government is a recurrent theme. Or, did you mean Gaga that you wouldn't vote Labour if Starmer is pro Israel? Do you believe the state has no right to exist.

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