More Nuclear Warheads?

OMG Dominic Raub (he still wants to be a real boy doesn't he!) and nuclear weapons! With Boris supervising!

Well Dominic Raab says we don't have to bother about human rights anymore so I suppose we'll just be nuking all the people Boris doesn't like.

We certainly havn’t got the equipment or personnel to fight a conventional war so I guess more nukes make up the difference. In a major confrontation those carriers wouldn’t last a day against missiles, they’re useful for bullying small nations that can’t fight back, that’s all, they could be used for disaster relief but it’s an expensive way of doing it.

No more nukes time to Scrap Trident emergency rally
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While the Government has not really given a reason why we need extra warheads, I think they said that we have to be friends with China but at the same time China might not be friends with us, or something.

My comment was in relation to the entanglements that hamper sovereignty

You mean like the WTO, NATO, the United Nations, the European Declaration of Human Rights, Nell?

Are we going to nuke them, as well as the EU?

All very depressing.

Alegrias

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/the-withdrawal-agreement-bill-sovereignty-special-status-and-the-withdrawal-agreement/

My comment was in relation to the entanglements that hamper sovereignty. My apologies for the lack of articulation, and for assuming comment was welcome on the thread. I'll leave you all to it.

As far as I am aware the government hasn’t explained why we need to increase our nuclear Arsenal.

I'd love to see someone try to explain to Germany that as members of the EU they are not an independent sovereign state.

Or France maybe. Or Sweden. Or Italy. Or.....

I'll stop there.

Apologies, I should have said independent Sovereign state.

Interesting - there's at least one person who still hasn't recognised that Britain is a sovereign state and has been since whenever. No matter how many times it was pointed out during the Brexit campaign.

It is so depressing. Hideous.
An arms race- a return to the bad old days.

If Boris wants a united Britain he is going the wrong way about it.
At least up until now, the SNP and Greens were together in wanting fewer no weapons of mass destruction and scrapping Trident. We are having a Scottish Parliament election in May.

NellG

I think the point is that no one does fire a single shot, ever. I also suspect this is part of the consequences of becoming a sovereign state.

We've always been a sovereign state. As a sovereign state we signed up to the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty mentioned by trisher. The aim has been to reduce nuclear weapons, not increase them.

This is willy waving...The consequence of electing a nightmarish tory government.

Nuclear bomb announcement sends clear message: warmonger Johnson has cash to KILL, not heal
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We should be reducing the stockpile not adding more

Varian Because loads of Tories wouldn't be able to make any money out of the deal.

Horrified when I heard this. As Varian said surely 180 nuclear warheads are enough. If defence spending is needed surely our under resourced forces could do with the money. Perhaps a full complement of planes for our newly built aircraft carriers.

If it is just a question of deterrence, why don't we just SAY we've got umpteen nuclear weapons?

Johnson apparently thinks that increasing the number of warheads will be a defence against cyber crimes. He's also gunning for China. I thought that China was supposed to be one of the markets we could crack after Brexit.

Johnson apparently thinks that increasing the number of warheads will be a defence against cyber crimes. He's also gunning for China. I thought that China was supposed to be one of the markets we could crack after Brexit.

I think the point is that no one does fire a single shot, ever. I also suspect this is part of the consequences of becoming a sovereign state.

Boris Johnson is set to raise the cap on Britain’s stockpile of Trident nuclear warheads ending three decades of gradual disarmament.

The Government’s Integrated Review of security, defence, development and foreign policy will increase limit from 180 to 260 warheads, according a leaked copy obtained by the Guardian.

Surely 180 nuclear weapons would be enough to destroy the planet several times over even if no-one else fired a single shot?

This is obscene.

MaizieD

NotSpaghetti

We can't take a stance on the Uighur people but we are obviously prepared to threaten someone.
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Probably the EU. It's one of Frost's new negotiating tools...

We can't take a stance on the Uighur people but we are obviously prepared to threaten someone.
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