Scottish Election 6 weeks away.

I so agree with you, Grannypiper. We’ve mostly lived in Scotland for over 40 years and three of my children were born here. That was not been enough to stop the racist abuse though. We now live in an area with people who have a broader outlook on life, thank goodness.

It was a very clever move of the SNP to decide to substitute ‘English’ with ‘Westminster’, to avoid the accusations of racism, but I can see through that ruse.

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Alegrias it's too easy to find nationalist images but here's two random ones.

Yes, I know Aveline. I'm trying to show that when there are complaints about how awful the "Bravehearts" are, it immediately gets described as the SNP's problem. But the extreme Unionists are never held up as the Conservative and Unionist party's problem. Nobody tries to lay the blame at Ruth Davidson's feet, or Douglas Ross's.

It's double standards. There are extremists on both sides.

Alegrias1 I can't remember the last time i wastold to eff out of my own country by a Conservative, can't remember the last time i was spat at by a Labour supporter. Here in the central belt bigotry is loud and proud. I have a relative that is of the ardent snp type, i won't call him a supporter because to be honest he is so blinded that if Sturgeon told him Westminster had painted the sky green he would believe her without looking out of the window to check. He can't discuss any of their policies, he can only repeat the party line. His little brigade on SM are just the same, will abuse people that dare to question the snp, will call them the most awful names but can never ever take part in a debate. It is so imbedded into them that anyone who is not with them must be tory scum, that anything that is wrong in Scotland is Westminster's fault that they can't accept that their party has made mistakes and that is scary. As for slandering someone, she did send many old people into care homes without Covid tests did she not ? and that is what killed so many of our elderly.

I was referring to your comment about her disappearing off to Portugal.

Anyway, your experience of Scotland is entirely different to mine and we'll have to agree to differ.

Is there any reason why the whole of the UK can't vote on this?

I do have Scottish parents. Never lived there myself.

But it will affect us all.

So why don't we all vote?

I could be totally wrong but I think the SNP might get their way if that was to happen.

Did the whole of the EU vote on Brexit?

No but the whole of the U.K did and we voted to leave.

But that impacted on the EU so therefore they should have been able to vote by your comparison.

grannypiper

No but the whole of the U.K did and we voted to leave.

Not quite. 17 million out of a UK population of 67 million were persuaded to vote leave.

Quite apart from the manipulation of the vote by foreign interests who had their own agenda, it was utterly irresponsible for Cameron to allow such an important constitutional change to happen without a supermajority - eg a two thirds majority of a 75% turnout such as would be required to alter the constitution of your local gardening society.

Varian. I agree with you . I think a major constitutional change should require a much higher percentage than let’s say 51 % voting in favour. It’s not something that can be altered easily in a few years time , as for example in an election , if the voters change their minds. A close majority causes division as it is not decisive enough .

she did send many old people into care homes without Covid tests did she not ?
As did the rest of the UK in its Four Nations approach.

He seems nice.

www.heraldscotland.com/news/16399120.meet-pro-union-activist-worked-orange-order-denies-jews-murdered-gas-chambers/

Got expelled from UKIP for being too extreme. Berates people on Independence marches and calls them paedophiles and braindead. Denies the gas chambers existed.

Personally, I think it's all down to Ruth Davidson and the Tories. (Of course I don't but I don't have double standards either, so.....)

Extremists on all sides.

Yes. Plenty of them in SNP and that's before you look at Salmond's motley and dodgy crew. Scotland's doomed.

Scotland's doomed. That's the spirit.

Are we still doomed if the Scottish Conservatives win a majority?

They won't win a majority though. The only hope is a coalition government working for the actual benefit of people in Scotland and not blindly pursuing party lines.
It might help if there are intelligent members with useful life experience of business and industry, education, health care, law etc.

I did a bit of digging...

Anas Sarwar was a dentist. Lorna Slater is an engineer/project manager in the renewables segment. Douglas Ross worked on a dairy farm. Patrick Harvie worked for the Inland Revenue . Willie Rennie worked in communications/PR. There are a couple of lawyers on the books as well but I'm not going to mention them...

Interesting. It seems more diverse than the WM government, or is that just my impression?

Maybe we need a Jedi knight.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIFJLMyUwrg

Anyone see George Galloway's PPB last night? That cheered me up no end.

How about giving Scotland their independence for a trial period, say two years with their income from Westminster suspended.

Feelers could be put out to the EU during that period to see if they would be welcomed with open arms or not.

At the end of that period they could have their referendum.
The result might be surprising.

Nobody's giving us anything, it's not in anybody's gift. If we want it, we'll take it.

Anyway, George and his ubiquitous fedora. Anyone see it? What was the picture of Churchill meant to symbolise?

What a ridiculous idea JenniferEccles.
Would you have supported that type of arrangement for Brexit?

(Money goes both ways, I'm sure you know, so income to UK from Scotland would have to stop too.)

Watched Nicola Sturgeon on the Andrew Marr show and thought she seemed somehow 'unwell'. Hope not. Not her usual slick and admirable performance.

I thought she looks tired Kim19 but she batted away Andrew Marr's rather predictable questions rather well, I thought.

Jeremy Vine interviewed Anas Sarwar last week, and Sarwar was trying to talk about education, NHS etc, and Vine kept going back to "Yes, but what about independence? What do you think of that?" Do others agree with me that the UK-wide media think its all we talk about up here?

In other news....Alex Salmond and Douglas Ross are each less popular in Scotland than Boris Johnson.

www.sundaypost.com/fp/scottish-election-poll/