Thomas Markle rushed to hospital after a suspected stroke.

mumofmadboys

Unless any of us actually know the Markle family personally I don't think we should be commenting. I would be appalled and angry if people talked about our family's dynamics on social media without knowing us well. It isn't fair and too many suppositions are being made without knowing the facts.

Yes

On Gransnet we have trued to be supportive of those estranged from close family members. Never really understood why this woman is the focus of the opposite.

Families are complicated things at times.

No one knows the personal background to all this, so it's really not anyone's business but Meghan and Harry's.

I think some people think that children owe their parents something. Ihave seen, "estrangement should not happen unless there is serious abuse" too many times. Even then what abuse is is not agreed on....

Respect needs go be earned as a parent, its not a given because of DNA

Even Disney films are forever highlighting abuse, neglect and emotionally unsupportive or controlling parents these days.

Allsorts

Sorry Serendipity, I thought you were saying he was bad person.
Yes Smileless, I agree with your sentiments. It's enough to finish you off. .

Quite so. All the ensuing drama

Whitewavemark2

mumofmadboys

Unless any of us actually know the Markle family personally I don't think we should be commenting. I would be appalled and angry if people talked about our family's dynamics on social media without knowing us well. It isn't fair and too many suppositions are being made without knowing the facts.

Yes

This

I think some people think that children owe their parents something
Well actually I do.
Not necessarily in relation to this particular case, but as it happens I understand Thomas Markle did pay for his daughters education and his career in film production played a large part in promoting or developing his daughter’s ambitions .

Crikey if my children felt they owed me something because of money I had spent I would be appalled.

I depends on the people involved .I have a sister who basically abdicated from the family and calls ,letters and msgs to her daughter about our mother were all ignored .
Even when mum was on her deathbed.

She tells everyone she had a wonderful upbringing ,a great childhood so we are all in the dark about her reasons .

We think she didn't want any responsibility of caring for mum when dad died.
She did appear at the funeral though in tears ,my mother wouldhave said crocodile tears.Supported on both sides my her partner and inlaws .Still makes me angry to think of it

12 YEARS she stayed away ...maybe Ms Markle will wait for a photo op before she shows face too?

Galaxy

Crikey if my children felt they owed me something because of money I had spent I would be appalled.

You are extrapolating from what I said.
I think credit can be given to parents for supporting their children both in their education and careers - and yes I am grateful that my parents supported me grouch university when many of my friends had to start work at 15 or 18 because family circumstances dictated otherwise.
But do I owe them? Yes, a debt of gratitude.
I do actually think I “owe” them for the love and care and nurturing I received as a child, for a secure environment in which I am sure we as children were in the forefront of their lives.

A dignified silence, Megan ? - Oprah interview.

We shouldn’t discuss this family, we don’t know them ! - we all
know the Windsors ?

Two things we do know , Megan is estranged from her family and her husband’s family.

“Grouch” ?
Through ☺️☺️

Meghan is estranged from her father, and also her entire family, none of whom were invited to her wedding, bar her mother. She is also estranged from her husband's immediate family.
Tina Brown interviewed Thomas Markle, of whom she speaks highly. Apparently Prince Harry rang him in his hospital bed and berated him at length for the distress he had caused Meghan after the wedding.

Megan’s mother’s family were not invited to the wedding

Surely it’s not about what we do or don’t ‘owe’ our parents, but simply all to do with love.
Yes Meghan might feel cross, embarrassed, exasperated with her father’s behaviour but what has happened to the love she clearly felt for him, expressed in glowing terms not too many years ago?

Tina Brown interviewed Thomas Markle, of whom she speaks highly. Apparently Prince Harry rang him in his hospital bed and berated him at length for the distress he had caused Meghan after the wedding.

That's shocking! So much for compassion.

Tina Brown's book is called 'The Palace Papers: Inside the House of Windsor--the Truth and the Turmoil'. I'm guessing that stirring things up is good for sales.

Sparklefizz

^Tina Brown interviewed Thomas Markle, of whom she speaks highly. Apparently Prince Harry rang him in his hospital bed and berated him at length for the distress he had caused Meghan after the wedding.^

That's shocking! So much for compassion.

Not this time thought. That was some time before 2020.

If it happened at all.

My husband underwent angioplasty a few years ago, a procedure where stents are used to widen blocked arteries, he was wiped out for quite a while after. Thomas Markle had the same operation just prior to the wedding which of course would have precluded him to travelling by air. In any case, recovery is far from immediate. To be berated in the immediate aftermath of that, still in a hospital bed, from a never met prospective son in law prioritising a vent of self indulgent anger at that moment in time was certainly an eye opener. To be admonished and probably not up to a two way discussion on the subject when not in a good state physically could have well hindered his recovery. He's certainly not a well man now after this latest set back.

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Tina Brown is an accomplished and experienced journalist; she would not quote something for publication she could not verify.

I have no emotional or other investment in this man whom I have never met. I wish anyone who suffers something like a severe stroke a good recovery.

I do wonder what the purpose of this thread is, I suspect it may be another opportunity to criticise his estranged daughter and her husband.

Blossoming

I have no emotional or other investment in this man whom I have never met. I wish anyone who suffers something like a severe stroke a good recovery.

I do wonder what the purpose of this thread is, I suspect it may be another opportunity to criticise his estranged daughter and her husband.

You think ?!

Bit of a difference between having a debt of gratitude towards good parents which can be expressed as love and gratitude and that be good enough

And

Parents who think their children owe them something and are obligated to whatever demands as a result.

Lucca

Blossoming

I have no emotional or other investment in this man whom I have never met. I wish anyone who suffers something like a severe stroke a good recovery.

I do wonder what the purpose of this thread is, I suspect it may be another opportunity to criticise his estranged daughter and her husband.

You think ?!

It seems to be a national sport. The only people not entitled to compassion