A boost for Brexit?

And back to Brexit!
Some good news for the UK. PLANS to build the biggest lithium hydroxide refinery in Europe in Teesside have been given the go-ahead, paving the way for the creation of 1,000 jobs and a local supply of a key battery material.

Redcar and Cleveland borough council approved the plan for the plant, which is expected to produce the metal in refined form from 2025. The next step will be to raise $300m (£248m) to build the plant in the new year.

They've received planning permission.

They haven't got the money to build it yet or got any customers lined up.

What could possibly go wrong? I do like entrepreneurialism though.

There are proposals to build a battery mega factory at Coventry but again the investment and customers are not on board yet. Britain is long way behind in new technology I’m afraid catching up is going to be a long hard road.

Katie59

There are proposals to build a battery mega factory at Coventry but again the investment and customers are not on board yet. Britain is long way behind in new technology I’m afraid catching up is going to be a long hard road.

Weren't we supposed to be getting a battery mega factory in the NE?

Last I heard it wasn't going anywhere...

Teeside had better sort itself out. At the moment their greatest achievement seems to have been killing thousands upon thousands of the crustacea that are our local fishers' livelihoods by deep dredging ' the port and releasing toxins into the seas from the industrial waste dumped there by earlier industries. Locals are not best pleased...

No boost here I’m afraid

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Rachel Clarke

@doctor_oxford

Brexit has lead to 4285 fewer European doctors choosing to joining the NHS - at a time when we're short of over 10,000 NHS doctors.

And a staggering 58,000 fewer European nurses have joined.

I’ve heard about the ‘fewer doctors and nurses’ because of Brexit and it’s appalling. But such precise numbers?
How were they arrived at? Did they sign up, then decide not to come, leaving their change of mind on record?

Mollygo

I’ve heard about the ‘fewer doctors and nurses’ because of Brexit and it’s appalling. But such precise numbers?
How were they arrived at? Did they sign up, then decide not to come, leaving their change of mind on record?

I expect if you were to tweet the doctor she'd tell you where her figures come from.

I'm not sure why you should expect us to know.

Extrapolation.

The UK has 58,000 fewer nurses than if the numbers arriving pre-Brexit had continued. “Nursing saw a far more dramatic collapse in EU and EFTA migration around the time of the referendum, as mass recruitment ended and a new language test came in,” the NMC analysis said. While there are 29,000, that would have been as many as 87,000 if things had not changed in 2016, it estimated.

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/nov/27/brexit-worsened-shortage-nhs-doctors-eu

MerylStreep

Petera
Why shouldn’t she be there?
I can almost smell your snear from here. Still, your in the right company here on GN. Snearing is much admired.

Gosh, you are touchy. Have you never seen someone in a context that - rightly or wrongly - surprises you?

That bastion of Brexit, The Daily Express, launched a readers' poll asking if the UK should rejoin the EU single market. The result has mysteriously disappeared from their website........

Yes 59%
No 40%
Don't know 1%

Can't think why

There wouldn't have been anything to stop us building battery factories as EU members btw.

CoolCoco

There wouldn't have been anything to stop us building battery factories as EU members btw.

I have a feeling that the person who posted it wanted us to see it as proof that Brexit isn't all bad and that businesses haven't entirely forsaken the UK.

You're right, there would have been nothing to stop us doing it had we remained in the EU.

Probably most of the ex-EU regulations the Tories want to get rid of are perfectly sensible and ones the UK signed up to when it was a member. Government Ministers tend to blame the EU for unpopular regulations which they approved of at the time but feared being criticised for back home.

These are the EU laws that the UK voted against. I think I would rather keep them.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/these-are-all-the-eu-laws-that-have-been-forced-on-us-against-our-will-116563/

CoolCoco

There wouldn't have been anything to stop us building battery factories as EU members btw.

Not just battery factories, most kinds of factories. OH is buying solar power components, the source(s) Spain, India, Canada and China, we have fallen way behind in technology.

Jackiest

These are the EU laws that the UK voted against. I think I would rather keep them.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/these-are-all-the-eu-laws-that-have-been-forced-on-us-against-our-will-116563/

So noticeable that most of them are post 2010. Under the Co-alition and tory governments. ' Grandstanding for the Daily Mail (or Express, or Sun, or Telegraph, before anyone gets too indignant) readers' seems like a fair description...

And none of them seem particularly unreasonable.

Before that, the UK didn't just sign up to legislation, they initiated a great deal of it.

A person called Steve Analyst did a brilliant long twitter thread on this in 2017, but, sadly, it's not now available in its original form. He pointed out that a great many of the things the UK had pushed for over the years were the very things that the Leave campaign was swearing blind had been imposed on us by the evil EU.

Report about the future of Brexit by Anton Spisak published by the TBI for global change.

Worth a read.

It accepts that the U.K. will not be re-joining the EU any time soon, but that it needs to cooperate much more closely to generate trust and to make Brexit work, which it definitely isn’t at the moment.

What I think is that the way pointed forward by this report would draw both parties together of the divide.

I think that the majority of Brexiters do not consider that Brexit has delivered anything of what was promised, and this report explains the way forward by an enlightened agenda.

I think that remainers can accept much of the premises on which the report is based and see the compromises as a way to solve the divisions.

There is a proposition that the centre right of the Tory party and the centre left of the Labour Party have more in common with each other, than they do with the extremes of their own parties, and I can agree with that.

institute.global/policy/fixing-brexit-new-agenda-new-partnership-european-union

Did anyone vote for this?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63821133.amp

varian

Did anyone vote for this?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63821133.amp

Of course not, but it was predictable more beaurocracy = more cost. There is no scope for the food industry to absorb the extra costs, it is already highly competitive, supermarkets squeeze farmers, farmers squeeze suppliers and workers, the extra cost is paid by consumers.
Higher energy cost is making it much worse currently so it’s not just Brexit

The article literally talks about the price rises due to Brexit. Brexit. Price rises due to Brexit, are due to Brexit.

That's it.

Hmm ... so is this how low paid jobs are going to be done - exploiting people in developing countries?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/dec/02/hundreds-of-indonesian-fruit-pickers-in-uk-seek-diplomatic-help

Why would anyone allegedly pay £4600 to an agent in Indonesia, that’s a massive amount on that country
If it’s true!.

Yes, I believe it's true. People pay that kind of money because they're promised the earth. Families often club together to "sponsor" one family member. They see it as an investment and, if they could earn five of six times that amount in six months, it would be a good investment. The National Crime Agency is on to it.

The national crime agency is not going make any difference to Indonesian criminals, they cant even keep track of criminal activity in the UK