Surprised about LibDems

I and Jo Swinson shared your view that there were a huge number of people wanting to remain in the EU, now it looks like a minority making lots of noise and marching.

I think one reason might actually be Jo Swinson's style of leadership. A bit too presidential.
For Labour supporters who also have a strong wish to remain in the EU, Jo Swinson's voting record while in the coalition makes it impossible for such remain leaning Labour supporters to vote for her party.

Well, it’s partly down to Ms Swinson, banging on about being the next prime minister. In your dreams sweetheart. At least she seems to have given up on that.
Plus since Boris came back from the EU with a deal that was actually acceptable to many, the Remainers have lost impetus.

I think people really dislike jo Swinson, I haven’t heard a good word said about her!
Quite the contrary.

It depends who you listen to.

You don't fight an election by saying 'ok; I know I'm going to lose'; you come out fighting and then compromise. I understand she went to a comprehensive school so why should anyone prefer her to the born with a silver spoon Boris who was obviously meant to rule us. Boris's deal is no different to May's deal; the one he voted against. The only difference is having a border in the middle of the sea I believe. That was after he realised that his dumb idea for a bridge was unworkable. The remain cause is just as strong it's just that we're concentrating on the election at the moment. Also, unlike most politicians, she has admitted to mistakes and apologised.

Well, I for one would still like to remain in the EU and am very much hoping that our young LibDem candidate unseats the Tory in our constituency.

Why do people think opinion polls truly reflect voters’ intentions?

Today it was announced that her popularity is lower than Nigel Farage. ???

AllTheLs
Did you honestly believe all the twoddle on GN Re how popular Jo Swindon is (was ?)

The polls have become accurate and nearly always get it right.
Politics seem to have become polarised. No one seems to be interested in the middle ground during an election.

The only ones voting Lib Dem ( apart from usual Lib Dem voters) are extreme Remainers, who refuse to accept the democratic outcome of the EU referendum.

MerylStreep Ha, ha, no I didn't believe how popular Jo Swinson was but I did believe people who said how strongly they wanted to Remain, and the LibDems are the only party (apart from SNP) who are saying they will definitely stay in EU.

I just don't get why the LibDem support has dropped off so drastically - I thought they were going to wing it!

Possibly her stance on 'Transwomen'??

Chukka Umunna must be devastated.

Why?

But Remainers were slightly in the minority. Of those, there are a significant numbers who are sick of the this everlasting saga; do not want another Ref. so will vote in BJ. Brexit must go ahead (not what I would personally want} with modifications to maybe suit everyone. The LibDems have got got the gauge of the Country. Swinson means well; that's all you can say about her.

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I think you'll find that the LibDems are being realistic and are targeting the seats where they have a chance of winning.

Don't forget that if we had a PR system, they'd have over 60 parliamentary seats, even if they only had 10% of the votes. With the current system, they'll have nothing like that, so they're concentrating on places such as St Albans and Richmond Park.

Why do people think that their opinion matters, if they would never have voted LD anyway?

Hate the polls - they influence people too much. Just wish we didn't have them at all. I think Jo Swinson has done a good job so far - she's very articulate and never stuck for an answer. I just think she lacks gravitas.

I think people have long memories and some will never forgive the LibDems for their complicity in supporting Tory Austerity and student funding.

The election should be so much more than Brexit or not. To me, it is totally horrific that in a that is one of the richest in the world, we have so many thousands of children in poverty, disabled dying through lack of care and homelessness increasing.
Whereas I do understand the need for Freedom of such things as expression, views, politics, religion, surely we must also ensure that the FREEDOMS FROM such things as lack of appropriate health care, good education opportunities, warm, and safe and secure housing, clean water is paramount.
Jo Swinson has had to apologise for her voting record on such important subjects - does not give anyone much faith in her surely.

Grannyrebel agree with your every word,
And who needs gravitas anyway, when you’re up against BJ and JC?

It's a great shame that the LibDems have never defended their position on student funding. Given the situation they were in at the time as the junior partner in a coalition, they traded student fees for the pupil premium, which is still worth over £2 billion to schools with poorer pupils.

In any case, the increased student fees don't necessarily cost graduates any more, as the majority of the debt for the majority of graduates will be written off.

The following are far more damaging for poorer students:

a) The scrapping of the means-tested nonrepayable grant by the Conservatives;

b) The proposed extension by the current Conservatives of the period before the debt is written off from 30 years to 35 years, which will cost graduates a considerable amount when they're in their mid to late 50s.

I have two children with student loans - the elder one, who went to university before the fees were increased, will end up paying more than the younger one, who has a much larger loan, but will probably pay back less. Of course, it depends how much they earn during their lifetimes. If either becomes a really high earner, they'll pay back more - and so they should.

Franbern I hope you're not considering voting Conservative.