48 hours in modern Britain…. ***title edited by GNHQ on OP's request***

And if we were to go on the streets, Pritty Patel would have us arrested and thrown in jail for ten years. We are living in dark times. I suppose it's like the boiling frog analogy. In addition, people see what they want to see. It is clear on GN those who still defend this absolute shower of dangerous incompetents despite all the evidence to the contrary.

Love how Brexit got shoe’d in there! Some of the examples you gave are nothing to do with it. They would have happened anyway I suspect.

And it’s not ‘whataboutery’ to point out there are a few unsavoury happenings north of the border too but you don’t mention them in your ‘Britain’ topic!

In case anybody's not noticed, we are living in a Britain (or UK if we're really being picky...) that is post-Brexit. Hence, Brexit Britain.

Volver I despair at all the things you list but for me its not about Brexit.

And there is the NI protocol to resolve.

Oh goody!
Yet another doom and gloom thread.
Just what we all wanted wasn’t it?

Yes I get it ‘Brexit Britain’ but all the examples given were in England. Par for the course.

I'm going to ask to get the title changed. It is to do with Brexit because that is how Johnson got into power, by lying about Brexit. But now we are seeing the results of electing an incompetent government who don't think we should question anything they do.

But people are focussing on Brexit when I wanted to hear views about the state of this nation.

Urmstongran

Yes I get it ‘Brexit Britain’ but all the examples given were in England. Par for the course.

I so promised myself I wouldn't do this.

You do know that the WM government governs the whole of the UK, don't you? I have explained this to you before....

Yes it governs the whole of the UK but Scotland has devolved powers and runs its own affairs on money allocated from the central pot (apart from defence). Just saying. If you want a pop at Boris just be honest about it.

You really don't understand UK politics at all, do you UG?

Majority of Benefits - managed from WM.

Secretary of State for Culture - UK wide brief.

Immigration and border control - reserved to WM.

Law breaking PM - in charge of the whole UK.

Hey just had a thought then ... why not scrap Holyrood as it doesn’t seem to wield much impact? Maybe it’s time to sack Blair’s devolution system? Actually it only seems to generate division anyway!

OK, I'm fed up. You win.

If anyone wants to talk about the incompetent government we've got in charge of Britain, please do.

If the rest of you want to point and laugh about something you don't know anything about, as is the wont of Unionists everywhere, please go ahead.

Really, Urmstongran? As much division as is caused by your pal Mr Johnson? I've previously had a post deleted for suggesting that you are surprisingly interested in what happens here considering that doesn't affect you, so I don't expect this one to last.

volver is quite right to point out that just because the shenanigans she mentions are going on in London that they only affect England. Please think about what is UK business, what is purely Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish, and what is purely English.

Power devolved is power retained Urm we have LIMITED powers here on a percentage of OUR money handed out like pocket money from a government who give billions to their mates.
I think you'll find ...or probably know that the Scottish government is voted in by people who LIVE in Scotland

.That kinda makes it just as valid as your toxic tories.

Why are you SO obsessed by what happens here when it doesn't affect you? Scottish MP's cant vote on English laws yet English MP's regularly vote on matters that affects us .
Is that YOUR idea of democracy?
Sure as hell isn't mine !!

I have a better idea! Turn Westminster into the English parliament and reallocate all the 'reserved powers' to the currently devolved but then independent, parliaments in Wales, Scotland and NI

Oh I’m not so sure it’s about things we know nothing about. It’s no laughing matter to hear that Scotland has the ferries debacle, the highest drug related deaths in Europe, the ‘missing’ £6 million that Police Scotland are assessing, Sturgeon’s take on NATO without Trident etc. Glass houses and stone throwing come to mind.

I suppose nowhere is perfect though if we’re honest. Even Europe have their scandals at present. Our government is one of many it seems struggling to impress the voting public.

A GE in a couple of years will kick them all out.
Or not.

Isn’t the NI protocol to do with Brexit ?

I see the USA is giving out warning notices. Pelosi has said “forget a trade deal” if Johnson continues to threaten the GFA.

Obama said we’d be at the ‘back of the queue’. Surprisingly we still voted for it.

Urmstongran

Obama said we’d be at the ‘back of the queue’. Surprisingly we still voted for it.

That is because you believed the propaganda - remember project fear and the thousands of lies.

I’m sure you are not quite so naive now and have given it some intelligent thought and reached your own conclusion rather than what you were told would be true.

You may know about the things you mention, Urmstongran but they are things that don't affect you. It's nice of you to be concerned about our ferries mess, our drugs deaths and all the other problems we have, but they are affecting us, not you. Mr Johnson's crimes and his cabinet's stupidities affect all UK citizens. Why can't you see the difference?

It looks like the sunny uplands of a massive post Brexit trade deal with the US, as promised by Johnson, is off now. No surprise here..?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10836357/US-wades-Northern-Ireland-Brexit-rules-row-warning-Boris.html

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"When I speak of Fascism in England, I am not necessarily thinking of Mosley and his pimpled followers. English Fascism, when it arrives, is likely to be of a sedate and subtle kind (presumably, at any rate at first, it won’t be called Fascism)"
- George Orwell