Any to add ?

FannyCornforth

Great thread!

Vica Versa

Are you sure it's vica you're hearing, FC? The e at the end of vice in 'vice versa' should be sounded as a definite schwa. It may sometimes sound like an a.

geneology instead of genealogy

Baggs really?!
So 'vy - suh' is correct?

I thought it was just 'vice'

Oh dear. This is going to lead to some kind of existential crisis

Reesearch instead of research.

Living in the west midlands it would take me forever to write what dh says as he is from the black country.
But here is one example " i learnt him this today", no you didn`t ,"you taught him this today", he did the learning.

FannyCornforth

Baggs really?!
So 'vy - suh' is correct?

I thought it was just 'vice'

Oh dear. This is going to lead to some kind of existential crisis

Yes.

Although...... just checking in Chambers they give three pronunciations: Vicy, vice (with the schwa) and vis.

So it looks as if it's woteva, so to speak ?

Baggs I say ree-search for the verb, and research for the noun.

This thread is further proof that I am indeed pronouncing everything wrong.

Lucca, I'm swiftly going off it now...

So Vice is always wrong but you have alternatives ?

Most people say reesearch because that's what Americans say. Correct British pronunciation has the stress on search though.

Because re is not what's being talked about, searching is.

timetogo2016

Living in the west midlands it would take me forever to write what dh says as he is from the black country.
But here is one example " i learnt him this today", no you didn`t ,"you taught him this today", he did the learning.

That really isn't a West Midlands / Black Country thing.
That is a bit offensive tbh

Clive James wrote a poem about this in 2014, which includes the lines: “As your Prime Minister I went through hell, / If I can say so without hyperbowl.”

Fannycornforth

"That isn't pronunciation though!
It's using the wrong word (is there a word for this?)"

Malapropism?

Baggs

So Vice is always wrong but you have alternatives ?

I don't think that I will ever be able to bring myself to say it again full stop Baggs

It is not offencive to state a fact FannyCornforth.

(Why couldn't I quote Fanny's post? Had to copy and paste. And they wouldn't let me italicise it either)!)

‘Sustificate’ for ‘certificate’. My mum, bless her, always said this.

‘Vunerable’ for ‘vulnerable’.

‘Hoskipel’ for ‘hospital’.

FannyCornforth, I dare say I am influenced by having grown up in an era when short readings from the Bible (the King James Version) were usual in school assemblies, even in non overtly religious schools. And we weren’t a church-going family, so I didn’t hear it there.

It was always pronounced to rhyme with ‘moth’, and IIRC it is also written as ‘wroth’ somewhere in the KJ bible.

You so rarely hear ‘wrathful’ any more, but IMO it would sound all wrong if not pronounced ‘wrothful’.

I gave a lecture once (in the 90s, when we still used over head projectors) and referred throughout to the acetates as ace-tates

FannyCornforth

Baggs

So Vice is always wrong but you have alternatives ?

I don't think that I will ever be able to bring myself to say it again full stop Baggs

Awwww! Dinnae fash yersel, hen! ?

Plus FannyCornforth i was talking about my dh no one else.

Skellington for skeleton drives me nuts, make no bones about it.

timetogo2016

It is not offencive to state a fact FannyCornforth.

What? That people from the BC can't speak properly?
Your husband may have trouble with his use of words, but his place of birth isn't the reason for it

Baggs, I did look up ‘research’ in my years-old big fat Oxford dictionary recently, and found that both research and reesearch are both accepted pronunciations (IIRC both verb and noun) now.

I was perhaps not exactly wrothful ? but certainly chagrined.

Upmost for Utmost.

Wrapped for rapt.

timetogo2016

Plus FannyCornforth i was talking about my dh no one else.

Yes - but you said that the reason that he speaks badly is due to where he is from.
I think that you should accept that what you wrote was ill considered.
There is no shame in being wrong, after all.