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anxiousgran Wed 16-Jan-19 16:34:40

Dgd brought home a flyer from school about this half terms "challenge".
It is called "Fabulous Fabric". The children have to imagine and draw garments made from re-cycled fabric. Then they have to "brainstorm" the fabric they have available then make the garment/garments, and as the flyer says measure themselves throughout to make sure it fits. Then they have to evaluate their work and make a poster to "advertise" their fabrics, and last but not least, wear their creations in a fashion show.

But here's the rub, she's five years old. Dil doesn't do any craft, and when dgd isn't exhausted after school, at weekends, dil works long shifts so ds can look after both dgds. They have asked me to help dgd with the project.

I was a bit dismayed, not to say upset, first for the poor child, but also myself in having to come up with something within my limitations. I'm not particularly handy myself, but have come up with a couple of ideas with the help of my sister and b-in-l.

Luckily I have some fabric and ribbon and so on, but the project idea will have to come from me as she will probably dream up a Cinderella outfit if left to herself.

At the very least the project will require dressmaking scissors, laying out the material and joining it, without it falling apart when she has to put it on unaided at the fashion show. I think it's all beyond a five year olds capability.

I'm going to use glue or staples where I can to avoid sewing, but that will require plenty of supervision if she does it. I also thought of wonder web type stuff, but that requires a hot iron.

Great Sewing Bee keeps coming to mind, and the pitfalls they encounter! We see dgds and ds most Sundays but only for a few hours and I'm worried it won't be finished in time.

She's bound to lose interest after a bit, and what infant school child wouldn't? So I will inevitably be doing most of it for her, which defeats the object.

Sorry I've made such a storm in a teacup about this, but I couldn't sleep the other night for thinking about it. I don't blame them for asking me though.

Just wondering what other gransnetters think? Also wondering if I've put this on the right forum?

notanan2 Wed 16-Jan-19 18:45:31

I think its a fun project. 5 yr olds are not supposed to do their homework independently.

I would look at what we are about to throw out (a quilted coat as it happens) and see what we could use it for (cut off an arm = instant warm hand muff)

notanan2 Wed 16-Jan-19 18:49:04

Another thing we are throwing out is a dressing gown with the belt missing: cut it up to waist length, fabric glue the front together = baggy hoodie

No craft skills required

mcem Wed 16-Jan-19 18:49:57

You really need to make your feelings clear to the school!
Obviously they expect the 5year old to have help so just say you can't/won't and that you want to lodge a complaint about this inappropriate project. Attack's the best defence.

Last time I looked, schools couldn't punish mums and grans!
However, you'll be up against the mums who want to show how clever they their daughters are!

Lily65 Wed 16-Jan-19 19:10:41

poor poor little kids. God help them.No wonder MH services are stretched to breaking point. A 70 hour week at 5??????

agnurse Wed 16-Jan-19 19:18:16

I just thought of another one! Can't take credit for it because I got it out of "The Kids Cottage Book", a book my mum has. You can make a knapsack out of an old pair of jeans. Seriously.

You take an old pair of jeans and a couple of strips of old sheet, plus some rope. Tie the ends of the strips of sheet around the ankles of the jeans and then tie the other ends to the belt loops of the jeans. This makes your straps. Put the rope through the belt loops of the jeans and then use it to hold the waistband closed. Now you can put small objects in the jeans through the waistband, and you can use the pockets to hold smaller objects.

notanan2 Wed 16-Jan-19 19:20:05

Old socks & scissors = fingerless gloves

notanan2 Wed 16-Jan-19 19:21:53

Thick Tights + scissors = leg warmers

morethan2 Wed 16-Jan-19 19:29:09

My grandchildren’s school is mostly wonderfully supportive. They know that the family are having a very difficult time but I often want to say a great deal of stress is coming from them. Stuffed animals coming home for the weekend together with a diary to fill about all the ‘fun’ they’ve had. Around an 45 homework each night. Schoolclubs before school starts and after it’s finished. Dressing up days, theme days it’s expensive and exhausting. I’m sure they’d be understanding if we didn’t join in but the children don’t want to be singled out. Schools seem to do much more extra activities than either I or my children ever did.

M0nica Wed 16-Jan-19 19:35:23

It is a ridiculous project for a 5 year old. When DGC were that age, about 5 years ago, they did sewing at school, learning about using a needle and thread, scissors and the like and they then sewed a simple sampler.

How many children will have parents who have the creativity, time and money to do a project like this, this is more a project for the parents than the children.

I would speak to the school about this and talk to other mothers to see how they feel, I am sure you and your DD's reactions are those of most of the children's parents.

Izabella Wed 16-Jan-19 19:43:29

I still remember the stigma of not having costumes in school when everyone else turned up with the required outfits and stuff. Mum was blind so there was no chance and I was singled out everytime.

Twin2 Wed 16-Jan-19 20:06:58

I’m an infant teacher (part time) and this sounds a bit over the top to me. Thought of a couple of ideas with no sewing

I’d just get Gd to draw final item and make poster after.

A quick and easier outfit with no sewing would be a skirt made out of scarves - wrap scarf over a belt that fits Gd. and tie it. Using several different colours and textures could look effective.

Recycle an old long sleeve T-shirt top and glue cotton wool circles on for a winter dress

If I come up with any others I’ll post them. Also as others said if you google recycled material clothes you should get some ideas.

Good luck and let us know what you do.

Jalima1108 Wed 16-Jan-19 20:13:23

It sounds much too ambitious a project for a five year old anxiousgran.
and as the flyer says measure themselves throughout to make sure it fits.
That's why I gave up making anything for myself!

If you have to do this, choose a fabric which doesn't fray, can be glued with fabric glue and a design which is meant to fit loosely.

Your OP reminded me that the next half-term will be the one prior to St David's Day and will be filled with several joyful 'projects' to complete for the Eisteddfod.
[sigh]
It is like a competition for mums!!!
That's how many of these homework projects end up!
Whose mum made the best model figure/dress/map etc

Jalima1108 Wed 16-Jan-19 20:14:55

A quick and easier outfit with no sewing would be a skirt made out of scarves - wrap scarf over a belt that fits Gd. and tie it. Using several different colours and textures could look effective.
Brilliant Twin2
One to remember

Atqui Wed 16-Jan-19 20:50:35

Absolutely ridiculous.Sounds like a GCSE project.

Jalima1108 Wed 16-Jan-19 22:38:41

I think the parents should get together and just say NO, this is unreasonable and none of us will be helping our children to do it.

mcem Wed 16-Jan-19 22:46:21

And as long as families buy into this nonsense without complaining, it will get worse!

BradfordLass72 Wed 16-Jan-19 23:41:33

I remember a similar occasion with my son. He was dreadfully upset because we just didn't have the facilities (it involved technology)
I wrote to the school telling them I was not going to allow him to take part and, if necessary, would keep him off school on the specified day. I added that I was sure they could come up with an alternative which did not marginalise those children without the required equipment.
They did.

FountainPen Thu 17-Jan-19 00:48:20

You say “but the project idea will have to come from me as she will probably dream up a Cinderella outfit if left to herself.” Why is that such a bad idea? It’s about the child’s imagination and if that’s what a five-year-old imagines that’s perfectly fine.

This may not be such a problem if you start small scale. Does she have any Sindy/Barbie dolls? Take a look at this video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=okqzi57RXZk

A folded shape, three small cuts and a ribbon.

This too: www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpGQAW3oYtE

And this: mycrafts.com/diy/diy-barbie-dresses-with-balloons-making-easy-no-sew-clothes-for-barbies-creative-fun-for-kids/

Measuring a doll will be easy. Finding small bits of fabric easy too. The maker of the video says stretchy fabrics are best but she could try out these small scale versions with all kinds of fabric as part of the evaluation. Dusters, J-cloths, old T-shirts. All fine but only for Cinders before the ball. The ball dress will need something with a bit of shine and sparkle.

Once she has the hang of making tiny dresses she’ll be inspired to make one for herself. A visit to a charity shop should find something with enough fabric to make a dress to fit a five-year-old. If you ask staff, there are probably donated garments and linen out back that are not fit for the shop floor but they will let you have for pennies or nothing. Discussing what she chooses is also part of the evaluation.

I don't see the project as being about sewing. The teacher isn't expecting Zandra Rhodes or Alexander McQueen. It's about looking at different fabrics, what they can be used for and a bit of simple measuring.

Yes, you will have to give her some assistance but I think it sounds fun.

Grandma2213 Thu 17-Jan-19 01:06:13

Looking at the Twitter feed from some of my DGC's school I wonder how many of the creative homeworks have been done by parents or grandparents. Most of them I guess, including DGD's mostly created by me. 6 years old, she cannot cut through thick card for some of the models she has had to make (eg a pyramid) and of course She needs help to produce the different shapes. I have to provide paints, brushes, glue, stickers etc etc. Luckily her latest, a rocket for a space project was easily made with a Christmas cracker, glue and sparkly tape from present wrappings. She still needed help to get the cone shape at the top though.

MissAdventure Thu 17-Jan-19 01:14:33

Of course.
A five year old won't be able to Google things, cut out, (leaving space for a seam)
Its fine if they have a parent who enjoys and has time to spend time on a project like this, but some don't.
I wish my grandson had an aunt or Nan, or someone to spend time doing all these things, but he hasn't, and I don't feel up to it.

grannyactivist Thu 17-Jan-19 02:23:24

I have taught 5 year olds and I can't imagine how this piece of homework got the green light from senior teaching staff. Class challenges are nothing new, but in Year 1 the result of an individual challenge like this should be evidence of the following:

Can the child think of some ideas of their own?

Can the child explain what they want to do?

Can the child use pictures and words to plan?

What has been described in the OP is exceedingly ambitious and without adult help I would say almost impossible. Below is what one school has set out as appropriate homework for this age group and you will see that there are options graded according to difficulty with the most difficult being considerably easier than what is described by anxiousgran.

www.stnicholasprimaryschool.org.uk/perch/resources/documents/homework-year-1-spring-term-1-2019.pdf

Blencathra Thu 17-Jan-19 07:01:02

I was a teacher and think it is ridiculous homework.
I would definitely take it up with the school. Meanwhile Twin2 has an excellent idea with the scarves.
A 5 yr old doesn’t need any homework other than reading. I particularly hate that sort where some parents won’t have the resources and some will go way OTT and the child won’t have touched it! I can’t see the point of it other than to give a prize to the most imaginative parent or grandparent.

dragonfly46 Thu 17-Jan-19 07:21:55

I used to teach in a primary school and I think this is nonsense. At 5 years old they should be learning simple tasks not making elaborate designs.
Controversially I don’t believe in teaching reading and arithmetic until they are 6.

Grammaretto Thu 17-Jan-19 08:12:35

Wow!!! What a creative lot you are. There should be a gransnet remakery, or whatever these workshops are called. Then all those with projects could come and make them together.
I thought you were going to say your DGD was 15 not 5.
When mine were 5 they studied the Greeks and Romans at school and made outfits with the help of parent helpers but in school certainly not at home.
My DS taught us how to make stuffed dates, which is what the Romans ate.
We still make them sometimes.

Humbertbear Thu 17-Jan-19 08:18:52

My son came home in year 7 or 8 with a half term project to male something to do with the Industrial Revolution. The teacher was ‘tired’ of marking essays. My son informed me that one friend was going to make a video of the Iron Bridge Museums and another was making a working model of a steam engine. We ended up making a board game where the players were children in the 18th century. The weavers child lost fingers, the chimney sweep got stuck and the rich child a,ways got across the board. We still have the board.