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Are We Being Told the Truth About Climate Change?

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Baggs Tue 13-Jul-21 09:36:02

Patrick Moore Are we being told the truth about climate change? on the Triggernometry podcast with Konstantin Kisin and Francis Foster.

If, naturally, you are concerned about balance, be aware that before this particular 'episode' they had the Co-founder of Extinction Rebellion, Roger Hallam, on the podcast earlier in the year.

DiscoDancer1975 Fri 23-Jul-21 15:30:02

Alegrias1

I'm not sending anybody anything that would give away my real name, you'll have to take it on faith wink

I understand. Keep safe.

HolySox Fri 23-Jul-21 15:50:45

Thanks for the links Alegrias so wanted to respond. The BBC history was interesting - mix of politics and science. Yes, as I acknowledged, there is compelling evidence for global warming, there is strong correlation between CO2 levels and global temperature and we may have a theory that links the two. The 'explanation' was a bit better, talking about absorption effects rather than reflection (i.e. as glass in a greenhouse works). However, these are small numbers. I appreciate the analogy with poisons but this is a complex system. Is all this still relying on the 1955's model?

Overall it is sensible for governments to err on the side of caution and limit CO2 production. As a Christian it is good that if we are believe we are damaging the planet we should try to put it right. Mind you, being 'sinners', I also expect we'll make a whole set of new problems...

Should we be complacent? The video I noted makes an argument that much of the 'green energy' initiatives will not stop CO2 emissions. It is more about big business cashing in. Maybe Discodancer has the solution - lets go back to living in mud huts and scratching a humble living off the land.smile

One last thought from this sceptic, with regards to correlation between CO2 and global temperatures - one piece of scientific evidence (from a reputable source) reports these figures for the last 800,000 years:

www.ncdc.noaa.gov/global-warming/temperature-change

Looking at this graph I see:

1. CO2 and temperature generally follow each other (correlation) but in some places temperature falls before CO2 levels!

2. No-one was burning fossil fuels 100,000 years ago so where does the change in CO2 come from? So now I am reading about how the oceans absorb and release CO2. "As temperatures rise, carbon dioxide leaks out of the ocean". "...turns out that the world is not a simple place."
earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/OceanCarbon

Think I'll leave it there. Been good food for thought. Thank you. Now off to burn my cuttings. smile

(P.S. Elegran God is very much interested in our lives here today on earth which is why in my first post I stated ^the world has bigger problems such as poverty, famine, disease and human suffering^)