Possible gulf-stream collapse

Whitewavemark2

Climate change is a problem for the world. Naming and shaming individual countries gets us absolutely nowhere.

Those who deny the evidence that climate change is the result of human activity should provide evidence to the contrary.

There are a number of things as an individual you can do.

Reduce your carbon footprint immediately by 10% by switching to renewable fuel.

Buy an electric car or like us a hybrid until the infrastructure is up to speed.

Plant trees. We pay for a tree to be planted each time a family member has a birthday.

Support biodiversity projects like re+wilding.

Cut out or down any flights you make.

Support sustainable fishing, eat no or less meat.

Support political parties who have the best climate change policies.

Lobby your MP

Lots more.

Do it all for your grandchild’s future.

Excellent advice Whitewavemark2
Thank you

I think one of the biggest contributors to reducing co2 would be to simply buy less stuff.

Everything produced adds to the emissions - co2 representing something like 70+% of greenhouse gases.

I think manufacturers should be encouraged by governments to produce things like washing machines that can be mended and do not have a built in life span. A guaranteed 20 year+ would be a good start.

I think one of the biggest contributors to reducing co2 would be to simply buy less stuff.

I agree with this. Buy less. Recycle things you don't need (sell on or give away). I ALWAYS think now. Do you NEED this? I'd say, 75% of the time, my answer is no. I do have a weakness about buying for grandson tho.

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EPA data

Interesting graphs, thank you WWM2

I am not a global warming denier. A science based education teaches you to keep an open mind.
While Alok Sharma our climate minister <never heard of him oops> was jetting about to 30 countries in the last seven months (it had to be face to face meetings of course) China was building a new coal fired power station every week to add to their total of something like 1,058.
Meanwhile the U.K., with an abundance of coal, has closed down ALL our coal fired power stations to protect the environment and is buying in wood pellets from Louisiana where the trees are cut down, dried and turned into pellets using American power then transported to the U.K. by ships burning polluting heavy fuel oil, then from the port of entry it is shipped to the Drax power station in Yorkshire which, incidentally, sits upon a huge coalfield.
Germany burns the most polluting coal of all - lignite. Australia and America are also major polluters.
Nothing this country does will make more than a very tiny difference to world pollution.

Good points Esspee. It is only when the world properly grasps the nettle instead of ignoring or paying lip service that any difference will occur.

Every little is important.

We simply can’t take the attitude that the U.K. emissions make a small difference, our house must be in order.

This I think end 2019

Try again

Why does that happen!!

Esspee

I am not a global warming denier. A science based education teaches you to keep an open mind.
While Alok Sharma our climate minister <never heard of him oops> was jetting about to 30 countries in the last seven months (it had to be face to face meetings of course) China was building a new coal fired power station every week to add to their total of something like 1,058.
Meanwhile the U.K., with an abundance of coal, has closed down ALL our coal fired power stations to protect the environment and is buying in wood pellets from Louisiana where the trees are cut down, dried and turned into pellets using American power then transported to the U.K. by ships burning polluting heavy fuel oil, then from the port of entry it is shipped to the Drax power station in Yorkshire which, incidentally, sits upon a huge coalfield.
Germany burns the most polluting coal of all - lignite. Australia and America are also major polluters.
Nothing this country does will make more than a very tiny difference to world pollution.

My science based education means that I can keep an open mind about things without my brain falling out.

But your science based education means you question whether there is enough evidence to say climate change is anthropogenic.

Okey dokey.

What this country can do is use its power, both hard and soft, to influence the major polluters in this world to move in the right direction. We can lead by example. Our power has been affected by the Brexit debacle but the world does look to our scientists and technologists for leadership. This is a chance for us to show if we really are Global Britain, or we just want to hide in our corner of North West Europe shouting "its not our fault" at people.

Our consumption of resources per head of population is amongst the highest, possibly the US is higher, China is way down. We have exported much of our manufacturing but we still consume far more than most.

As a species, we may be doomed. We probably won’t survive the planet but the planet will definitely survive us. ?

Witzend

I believe it, but I’m another who can’t get too worried over something I can do so very little about. Not that that will stop me doing what I can, but it’s such a minute drop in the global ocean.
Exactly this. As individuals we have very little power or influence. I haven't even heard heard much about Greta Thunberg recently, and she has tried her best to be influential.

Katie59

Our consumption of resources per head of population is amongst the highest, possibly the US is higher, China is way down. We have exported much of our manufacturing but we still consume far more than most.

You are incorrect.

Granmarderby10

As a species, we may be doomed. We probably won’t survive the planet but the planet will definitely survive us. ?

I do have some sympathy with your sentiments granmarder

I think that Homo sapiens is a pariah species, and perhaps the world is fighting back on behalf of all the species we have destroyed, the climate we are destroying, and the environment we are trashing.

Katie59 was talking about consumption of resources per head, your graph is CO2 emissions

Katie59 is correct.

That to Esspee

Before the scientists have a melt down, I realise that my post is not based on fact?

Just in time there WWM2 ???

Look up Prof Lovelock and Gaia.

Oh I’m not so daft, although it doesn’t seem to have much support?

Apologies Katie59. I was trying to do too many things at the same time and assumed you were referring to our contribution to CO2 emissions as this thread was on the subject of global warming contributing to possible reversal of the Gulf Stream.

As can be seen on the attached graph the U.K. is not nearly as bad as many countries which have no intention in reducing their reliance on fossil fuels.

I’m surprised that Canada and Australia are high on the list no surprises for the rest except China which has a massive population and massive manufacturing energy use.

CO2 emissions by country are even more interesting