The Crown......again!

Jane10

*Anniebach*- Diana didn't start out needing validation or looking for affection wherever she could find it. She thought she would be loved by her husband. Poor girl, she was wrong.

I think you are right.

Jane10 if true about Charles why can the same not be said
for Camilla who was married to a philanderer?

If this affair between Charles and Camilla had been going on for years how come Sarah Spencer didn’t know when she was with Charles, if she did why didn’t she tell her sister when she
introduced her to Charles ?

What about poor Tiggy ? Diana lied about her

Anniebach

Poor Mrs Manakee, poor Mrs. Hoare, poor Mrs. Carling

What about MR Manakee, MR Hoare and MR Carling? They had minds of their own. They weren't bewitched. Why blame only the woman?

Anniebach- why have you got it in for Diana? The situation was messy. She walked into it an innocent and had a rotten time. Obviously, there was a more sophisticated set all busily having affairs round about her. Charles and Camilla seem to have been pretty much an open secret.

Some people always blame the women and let the men off the hook.

Sparkle why blame Camilla ?

Jane10 I haven’t got it in for Diana, I defend Camilla because
of the lies so many choose to believe .

If an open secret why didn’t Sarah Spencer tell her sister ?

Lots of pictures out there of Diana with her legs crossed, it appears that's OK for a Royal. Unless your name is Meghan, of course....

www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/6635930/meghan-markle-sitting-dispectful-flouted-royal-rule-queens-young-leaders-awards/

Anniebach- how do you know she didn't tell her sister?

Also what lies are you talking about and how do you know they are lies?

Jane10 you think she may have told her sister but her sister
didn’t care ?

Perhaps she did tell but being Princess of Wales was worth more to her sister

“HKLP” Haven’t heard that one.
Isn’t it said that Charles didn’t rekindle his affair until he’d been married for 4 years? ( oh that’s all right then). The marriage must have been hell for both of them

Atqui I think it was hell for all concerned and feel sorrow for them all.

But I really think so many lies have been said about ‘the open
secret’ , never known the press silent when there is an open
secret doing the rounds.

Camilla married Parker Bowles because she really loved him not because she couldn’t marry Charles.

Mr Parker Bowles was playing the field though that’s ok

Anniebach

Sparkle why blame Camilla ?

Is this addressed to me Annie? I am not blaming only Camilla, although you always blame only Diana. It was a total mess and a perfect storm waiting to happen.

No one can ever see inside someone else’s marriage. Even (from my own experience) the people in it can’t always make sense of it, either. Must be even worse when it’s in full view of the whole world.

fish knives were considered very non-U, along with napkin rings.
apparently posh people use two forks for delicate fish.
as to the rest, it does seem odd to be able to make an entertainment film series about real people, most of whom are still living. i think there should be a disclaimer on each episode that though it broadly follows main historic events, much of the detail, conversations, are creative inventions. that seems only fair. much of it is bound to be conjecture.

“ Camilla married Parker Bowles because she really loved him not because she couldn’t marry Charles.”
How on earth do you know this ??

Anniebach

Jane10 I haven’t got it in for Diana, I defend Camilla because
of the lies so many choose to believe .

If an open secret why didn’t Sarah Spencer tell her sister ?

Ok then if you haven’t got it in for her let’s hear one positive thing about Diana ?

I defend Camilla because of the lies so many choose to believe.

Anniebach What are these lies about Camilla?

They were all 3 victims of circumstances ...

Fish knives were seen as a middle class affectation by the upper classes so it’s probably correct that they weren’t used in The Crown

Ive never known the press silent when there's an open secret doing the rounds

Annie if only that was true. I can think of several 'open secrets' but will mention only two, on the basis we now all accept them as truths. Jimmy Saville. Cyril Smith.

They agreed to keep quiet about Edward and Mrs S back in the 30s. There are some pretty big secrets right now but injunctions prohibit them being revealed.

Iam I was speaking of the royal family , why would the press
not release info on one alleged affair Charles had. He did with
Kanga Tyron and this was reported.

Phillip and the Queen , alleged affairs, Anne an alleged affair
with an actor and the love letters from Tim Laurence