Anti Semitism in Labour Party and Universities.

Are these people anti-Semitic too?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/29/labour-antisemitism-and-where-jeremy-corbyn-goes-from-here

As there is another thread started by Ana on the recent Ken Livingstone/Naz Shah debacle over Anti Semitic rhetoric I wasn't going to bother to 'bump' this thread but it is going to end up with repeat posts of the same nature .

I thought some who may not have noticed this thread might be interested as a lot of detail has been covered already.

Apologies to Ana if I have trodden on her toes but I read the other thread and saw the direction it was taking and I thought some posters might find it interesting to read this one also as the two are most definitely talking of the same thing.

Lol. posted on wrong thread ( should have been the ' breast ironing' one.)

rosesarered, How can you say there's a 'lack of interest'? This is page 26 and there have been over 600 replies! I expect everybody's had their say. Until Baroness Royall's report is published, we don't really have too many facts.

I've read the links people have posted and most of them come back to a few isolated incidents and general criticisms. I do not accept that criticism of the current Israeli government is the same as antisemiticism. Nevertheless, it does seem that there have been some incidents of pure antisemiticism. The people involved should be kicked out of the Labour Party and/or prosecuted, as should anybody whether or not connected to a political party.

There has been so much confusing of issues and I think most people would like to see some facts.

Pardon

Is this thread on a loop?

Just for the record, Disraeli came from a Sephardic Jewish background. He converted to Anglicanism when young without, it seems, much conviction in either faith and could not have become an MP without having converted because of the parliamentary oath. He was by no means the first MP from a Jewish family but, yes, the first PM. I think Queen Victoria liked him rather more than Mr Gladstone.

I have no idea about the current oath and how that would affect a party leader committed to another faith or sect other than Anglican Christianity or, indeed, an agnostic or atheist.

There seems to be a distinct 'lack of interest' in this subject POGS...... Wonder why?

Well as mentioned so many times before Anniebach we will see what the Baroness Royall Inquiry findings are.

Yes POGS, I get it but I stand by my view it is anti Israel not the entire Jewish people

www.premier.org.uk/News/UK/Rowan-Williams-slams-growing-university-anti-semitism

Thank you POGS, it does seem the actions of Israel are causing deep anger, but 30 cases over five years is a very small number amoung thousands, it's wrong, but I am sure far more Muslims face far more racism . I cannot recall which university the British student who was shot by Israelis because he was helping some people in Pakistan was from

www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/anti-semitism-a-major-problem-in-uk-universities-says-former-co-chair-of-oxford-university-labour-a6879701.html

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/18/oxford-student-left-antisemitic-university-antisemitism-jewish-progressive-politics

I have read the Jewish Cronicle are claiming universities who have received Muslim speakers ,who in turn has criticised Isreal 's treatment of Pakistan , as anti Semitic , nothing about a university banning a Jew.

I accept and understand students criticising Israel, I do the same, this does not make a person anti Semitic . Will have to wait for niggle to share her knowledge of the anti Semitic universities

Anniebach
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jewish-students-subjected-to-increasing-anti-semitic-incidents_uk_56e1470ce4b05c52666e6f35

I have to go out, but in the limited time I had, I found out that the NUS officially 'no platforms' only five organisations:

1 The terrorist group Al-Muhajiroun,
2 The racist British National Party
3 English Defence League,
4 The neo-Caliphite organization Hizb ut-Tahrir
5 The anti-Semitic Muslim Public Affairs Committee.

Individual student unions are free to refuse to share a platform with individuals, so I'm assuming these prospective Jewish speakers come under this category. I'd be interested to know who they are.

Some universities refuse to no platform anybody, because they claim it's a denial of free speech.

Am also awaiting niggly's list.

I have contacted the Welsh universities student unions and it hasn't happened in Welsh universities. I think the universities should be named and await niggles list

niggly,

Please could you name the Jewish speakers who have been banned and which universities have banned them.

(Not disputing it, but haven't got the time to find out for myself.)

I have no knowledge of English universities niggly ,

Pakistan? That aside, I think you'll find it's a hatred of Jews generally, otherwise why ban certain speakers on some university campus? answer:- They are Jews!

I am interested in how much is anti semitism and how much anti Israel , they are not the same thing, I am against the Israel treatment of Pakistan but not anti Semitic

Part of a quote from Boris

"Sadiq Khan has himself belatedly admitted that Labour is afflicted with anti-semitism. He has rightly called it a “badge of shame”. But for years now he has been sharing platforms with some of the most backward and sectarian forces in Islam – men such as Sulaiman Ghani, who has denounced gays and called women “subservient”, and called for the release of al-Qaeda terrorists.
Khan spoke at an event with a man called Azam Tamimi, who threatened reprisals of “fire throughout the world” after the Mohammed cartoons – words Khan dismissed as “flowery language”. Khan has repeatedly spoken at jihadi flag-waving events sponsored by the Islam Channel, which has been criticised by Ofcom for condoning marital rape. Khan hired a speech- writer who speculated that the murder of Fusilier Lee Rigby was staged."

Don't know how much truth in this as all politicians manipulate info.

I just can't get my head round this anti jewish rhetoric. This dislike (hatred?!) of Jews is quite beyond me. Why, FGS would any right minded person be so venomous about someone else simply because of their religious beliefs or racial origins?! Ed Milliband would never be PM because he's Jewish?!!! Whatever sort of way is that to talk?! Yes, we have had a Jewish PM, namely Disraeli, which can't be denied or changed. Referring to people as Zio's? In a derogatory way!! Unbelievable! Let's hope Jeremy Corbyn and anyone else comes up against this grabage gets a grip on this sinister development.