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Waitrose, sugar, scones and healthy eating

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JessM Fri 08-May-15 16:53:33

I am engaged in a discussion with Waitrose regarding their nationwide "Kick Start Your Health" promotion which includes a bank of golden caster sugar on a display stand, near the entrances of stores. On close investigation I now realise that this relates to "healthy" recipe for carrot and sultana scones with added pumpkin seeds. hmm I have tweeted, communicated with them via Facebook, complained to the store and... grin managed to corner a visiting manager from head office as he stood discussing the dips and olives with the local management team. I have now had a defensive reply from them via Facebook (its a healthier recipe, blah blah). They are just not getting that their customers are walking into the store and and seeing sugar promoted as something that will "kick start your health". Please do feel free to join in my telling them off on Facebook if you are able to see this link:

www.facebook.com/Waitrose/posts/10152890114528207?comment_id=10152894691323207&offset=0&total_comments=8

thatbags Fri 08-May-15 17:10:52

Article from Guardian last September suggesting that sugar, as such, isn't the problemit has lately been made out to be, but that old affliction called "eating too much".

rosesarered Fri 08-May-15 17:31:09

Yes, and those scones sound rather yummy, having just made a batch of scones this afternoon, now I am tempted to try that recipe.

rosesarered Fri 08-May-15 17:31:52

I would leave out the pumpkin seeds though.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 08-May-15 18:00:43

I have somehow managed to mess up my password to Facebook, but if I can sort it out after I've had my dinner I will certainly add a comment.

Totally misleading. They are obviously leading people to believe that golden sugar is less unhealthy. It isn't.

Shocked tbh.

Anya Fri 08-May-15 18:23:09

Pure, white and deadly. Sugar is BAD.

Anya Fri 08-May-15 18:23:39

Pumpkin seeds GOOD.

loopylou Fri 08-May-15 18:28:21

And warm scones even better!
grin

merlotgran Fri 08-May-15 18:29:32

8.05g of sugar per scone

Modifying a scone is a year 7 activity. Why not just leave out the sugar?

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 08-May-15 18:37:42

That's not the point! It seems to me that Waitrose are giving out that golden sugar (raw) is better for you than white. hmm It's bad public education.

janerowena Fri 08-May-15 18:42:10

I don't put any sugar at all into my scones when I make them, and never have! It's appalling really.

thatbags Fri 08-May-15 18:42:17

How much does each scone weigh? What proportion is 8.05g of the total. I understand what jess is getting at, and I agree that promoting scones as 'healthy' or 'healthier' because the sugar is pale brown is daft and wrong. However, scones aren't necessarily unhealthy with or without sugar. One could eat a scone or two every day and not be unhealthy. I think our usage of words like healthy has gone to pot and that's the real problem.

Soutra Fri 08-May-15 18:47:46

I hate hearing people parroting "healthy option" like some kind of mantra, just because for example there are carrots in it!
But good home baking, like home cooking is always going to be healthier than processed food especially when you don't know the half of what goes into it. Read the list of ingredients and preservatives and ponder!

janerowena Fri 08-May-15 18:48:02

So I have complained as per instructions. grin

loopylou Fri 08-May-15 18:49:03

Well said thatbags, and by the way I don't put sugar in mine either.

merlotgran Fri 08-May-15 18:49:04

thatbags Obviously I didn't have the recipe but on the facebook page Waitrose said they used 30g of sugar for eight scones. Using a recipe that produces eight scones (size unknown) I ran it through a nutritional analysis programme. There would also be natural sugar in the carrots and sultanas to take into account.

As they said - it had an amber traffic light reading but I don't see why they have to include sugar at all.

Supermarkets are not going to encourage you NOT to buy something are they?

merlotgran Fri 08-May-15 18:51:13

Taking out the sugar makes it 4.12g per scone.

thatbags Fri 08-May-15 18:57:16

30g sugar doesn't sound excessive to me for a batch of scones. It's a long time since I've made scones but I put sugar in my home-made bread. Not a lot, but some. My bread is fabulous. People worry too much. Sugar is the new fat.

Still, Waitrose shouldn't be advertising scones containing sugar as healthy. Hey, wait a minute! are they advertising them as healthier because they contain carrots and pumpkin seeds? That much is arguably true. Just going to check.....

janerowena Fri 08-May-15 18:58:56

Bread needs sugar, to make the yeast work. Scones do not.

thatbags Fri 08-May-15 19:00:26

It is unclear but it could be argued that scones containing carrot and sultanas are healthier than scones made only of flour, butter and baking powder (and a bit of sugar, which also comes from plants).

thatbags Fri 08-May-15 19:02:03

Actually, I've made bread without sugar many a time (depends on the yeast and the method) but I prefer it with some sugar.

thatbags Fri 08-May-15 19:02:40

Next thing we know, sultanas will be called unhealthy. Oh, wait...

merlotgran Fri 08-May-15 19:08:05

The carrots and seeds make the scones slightly higher in fibre - that's all.

They don't say whether they use plain white or wholemeal flour.

thatbags Fri 08-May-15 19:09:08

Aren't there any vitamins and stuff in carrots and sultanas?

merlotgran Fri 08-May-15 19:11:13

You'd need to eat a lot of scones grin