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Oh yogagirl that is so sad! I feel even worse as 5 years almost for us!

Another birthday without her but we going away for weekend and will try have good time!

I keep busy best advice. Have you been able to cry yet? That is a healthy kind of relief to pent up emotions.

I don't think anti depressants are answer unless you clinically depressed - I have been in my life but thank god not at moment.

I take quiet life and Bach remedy few drops on tongue seems to calm me.

I am on b pressure medication so St. John's wort not that good.

Thinking of you keep strong for your nice daughter is she on hol? x x x
Oh Steve was on euronews bbcnews24 and CNN

Stop press Steve on CNN news at 10am Tom.

Morning all.
Morning Celebgran, Your son's in the media then, good job, you must be very proud of him. Yes my ND is in Indonisea with the whole family, celebrating her dad's 60! We are still holding our breath to see if Jenni and Jason (S.i.l) turns up nxt week with her Grndad. My son had ticket booked to go out with Grndad nxt week too.
if you remember, my son sided with his best mate, my s.i.l, so I have'nt spoken to him since, but just heard he has cancelled going, wasting airline ticket, I don't know whats wrong with him either, he used to have a fantastic job as a mathmatical scientist, worked on things for the military defence, his work in papers etc. he then gave his job up, now lives in a squat, (he said he needed to rid himself of Lymes disease, from tic bite) I think my s.i.l is suppling him with drugs, can't think why else he would go from a loving professional person, my ND told me that people who share drugs, get this strange bond, that would make sense of his behavour change
No I have'nt cried yet Celebgran, I had a vivid dream about my Laila and Jack, it was so lovely, cuddles and kisses, I keep re-living the dream, I don't think Im going to see them for years now
Went to see a young friend of mine, she had twin boys at the same time as my Laila was born, their dad left before they were born, same situation as my D Jenni. Her parents live in Cornwall, they don't see much of them, the twins were so lovely with me, slipping their little hands in mine, and wanting me to play with them, they really warmed my heart
Enjoy your w/e Celebran Im going to Dorset for the week, really hope the sun comes out for us

Dear Celebgran and Yogagirl ,
Just to say I'm thinking of you. I've skyped my daughter , and the little one but still no invitation to visit. It's so sad that we cannot be honest with our children , I'm treading very very carefully on eggshells but loving hearing them talk. To you and all the others of us , wise, weary and frankly grieving gnetters, I wish peace and do try to grab a little happiness .

I have a horrid feeling I might have pressed the 'report' button by accident. If I did then I apologise it was not intentional. Unfortunately it is easy to do this when using a Kindle.

Morning Girls, more rain!but quite mild today[happy]
Celebgran I was going to record your son but I don't have CNN, I did have when I had Sky TV, but I've now got 'freeview'. Let me know when he's onBBC24 as I watch that most days. My son is not answering any phone calls or emails, Im worried about him now, I wonder what on earth he's up to!

Sadly , once again , my daughter has kicked us out of her life. Words can't describe the pain having so recently felt the joy . I know whatever her problems are , I cannot help her with them . My memory of my DGD sky ping me saying ' I've drawn a picture of a house which I shall keep for you until you visit' is the reason for my broken nights . I'm sorry for all of us , who are for not one sound reason' separated from those we love ! I don't ask for pity but have any of you heard of parental alienation, because it does form part of the problem. My ex. was warned by the police '15' years later that he was not under any circumstances to contact me or my husband so I rather fear that he has finally got precisely what he wanted . Anyway to all of you , let's please find a way to get through this pain without allowing our own days to become merely survival . I've lost too many loved family and Friends not to recognise the value of every 24 hours .

PA, or Parental Alienation is fact.

I hope this is temporary otw and contact is restored again. When you have a grandaughter who talks about you and looks forward to seeing you, it's difficult to keep the separation up. PA is abuse, simple as. When my ex-DIL was doing this, I found some helpful strategies online, from Googling 'tips or dealing with Parental Alienation.' One was to try to keep lines of communication open, so I would send little gifts like books and computer games, and cards to remind my grandson I was still here and thinking about him. He always ran to get the post, so I knew he would see them. Ex-DIL didn't like it, but if she had stopped him having them, she would be seen for what she was. It was temporary, but heart-breaking, so I can imagine how you're feeling now. I hope it doesn't last long.

I believe there was a thread with the title 'Parental Alienation ' on this site at some time in the past.
It must one of those that have been made dormant!!
As Minty says Parental Alienation is fact!
My son and I have had over 2 years of this and no signs of change .
All lines of communication totally blocked!

I will try to find the old thread - thank you .

Today I'm going to try yet again to speak to my DD. I don't hold out much hope, but will never stop trying.

Here's hoping Marelli.

All luck in world marelli

Ah well....no go . I'd suggested to my grand-daughter that her mum might just agree to see me when I dropped DGD off at her house this morning. DGD looked at me and shook her head, saying, "Maybe not, Grandma." So I left it. I waited outside the house for DGD to come back out again, all the while feeling rather silly. DGD is very aware of the situation and I trust her judgement. She said, "My mum's unpredictable, Grandma......" I think I've got another very long wait ahead of me. Today I'm finding it easier to cope with, but more than likely, out of the blue tomorrow, all I'll feel is grief for losing her again.

I'm so sorry. Virtual hug winging it's way over to you...

Marelli I hadn't seen that you and your daughter are out of touch again - after all the advances you've made it must feel quite a backward step - I'm so sorry.

Tegan, thank you.xx
grannyactivist, it all followed from when she was attacked and injured by someone. See my thread 'Give me just one minute with this person'. I think it's just going to be this way now, and I'm going to have to accept what I can't change. We can't make our children believe us or love us, even if they do know that we love them unconditionally.

Marelli and a (((hug)))

She does love you, marelli, and she knows you love her but the attack has damaged her ability to relate to you.

I'd like to think so, thatbags, but that doesn't account for her breaking away from me for 7 years in the first instance. Thank you moomin, too. xx

Marelli

Marelli I can feel for you so much.

Is 5 years for me and I feel so ill physically and mentally since we found about new granddaughter.

There are no words of comfort other than focus on good things and people in your life. Sorry dont know full story.

So very sorry Otw and Marelli
Feel the same way Celebgran even after my lovely holiday

and {{hugs}} to a'l those grandparents who are cut off from their children/grandchildren. So sorry for your pain.