You cannot be proud to be…

This should be in pedants corner. Or whatever it's called.

Totally daft.

nit-picking

jingl Did I miss your election to thread monitor?

It is nit-picking. And it is pedantic (not always the same thing). I think it 'should' be (would be better) in Pedants' Corner too. I wasn't elected to say that either.

I am saying all this calmly and gently.

OK ,

I m proud as proud can be
Smug as smug can be
Boastful as boastful can be
About my darling , darling family and all they have achieved !
Could not give one single jot , who knows it !!

Do share it with us, Nonu

She just did

It's the details I'd love to read. My family are much less amazing

Nonu Your posts are always positive

I mentioned this thread to my family during lunch yesterday, and their reaction was disbelief, well the main comment was"What a load of b****cks" followed by reasons of why they should and could have pride in the achievements of their families and friends. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, but you are definitely in the minority here Absent

I'd say being proud of attributes whether your own, or of your offspring, is a human characteristic, it may not be logical, but nevertheless it's something most of display from time to time.

I'm jolly well going to be proud (without being arrogant, I hope) about
my family or anything else I feel proud of.

This thread is a bit strange!

Sorry Absent. Got a bit grumpy there.

Can't imagine why!

I agree wholeheartedly with Ceesnan's family members. Couldn't have put it better myself.

I like to hear the details, too. Perhaps absent is fed up with the kind of pride that endlessly expresses itself. Like those Round Robin letters some people send at Christmas which suggest the entire family and the dog, cat and goldfish are over achievers. There's a conflict as well between the kind of families who think you shouldn't give praise (only 90% on the test?) and families that think praise is what's always deserved.

Nonu Yay! With bells on. I don't have either the time or energy to proceed further with this nonsense. Better things to do.

I agree with bags.

I am proud of the qualities my children exhibit and their approach to life and to other people. I am proud of the fact that they have overcome large and small adversities and, I am proud of the, small, input DH and I have had in their lives to help them become the people they are.

Soop

absent I think if you son or daughter did well in something--as their parent--you can be proud of both your child and yourself.

If this was not the case then what you are saying is--it does not matter if you have been a good or bad parent.

As a parent it is your job to teach your children right form wrong--good paths and right paths and to GUIDE them.

I think its ok to be proud of yourself if your children have done well

And if your children have not done so well? Or have taken a wrong path? What then?

Only that person themself can answer that one nightowl.

Of course I am proud of whatever gives me such feelings but it's personal to me and my family. Nothing will ever make me feel differently.

So my answer, Absent, is yes! You are being unreasonable.

I've been thinking quite a lot about this issue of pride, and what it's opposite might be. I guess it's humility. So many feelings exist in between these two opposites.
I honestly don't feel proud of either my children or myself, but will go with feeling joyful, gladhearted, disappointed, confused, unhappy, delighted, touched and humbled in myself and them. Can I wrap all that up into feeling proud - no. Nor do I experience true humility that often.

All that in between stuff though - yes! Quite content with that.

Well, we invented words to cover everything so, if we invented the word 'proud' to describe a feeling then, when you feel that way you're feeling proud [aren't you?]. I suppose it could spill over into 'conceit' but if you felt you were feeling 'proud' then that's what it was [to you]. I think .