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mrsmopp Tue 02-Aug-16 21:52:40

I'm seeing this all the time.
Mum with a buggy gets on the bus, sits down, gets her phone out and spends the whole journey ignoring her child as she is gossiping on the phone. The child tries to speak to the mum but is ignored. You see it everywhere, in parks, cafes, on trains. Don't mothers speak to their children any more? Don't they look out the window and show the child interesting things outside? I used to do that. The children are not learning communication skills at all as the mums are not interested.
Don't bother speaking to your kid, give him a pack of wotsits to keep him quiet till you get home and stick him in front of the telly. So sad.

adaunas Thu 04-Aug-16 09:47:58

Starbird, Bumblebee34 and others who have commented on communication skills, it's true. We have more and more children at the one or two word level ( and some of the words not appropriate) with fewer and fewer children able to string a sentence together. Sadly, putting children together, even on specially 'boy friendly' activities does not promote communication if not enough of the children have an adequate vocabulary. Schools do not have the money to employ sufficient adults to stimulate and promote conversation in reception classes. We were once told that special needs existed when a child's needs differ from the majority of the class. In some classes, that would make those children who come to school with good communication skills the SEN group, needing provision to develop their existing skills whilst the majority of the class learn basic language. The words "children who have achieved a level should not be pushed on to the next level" may well signal a 'switched off' child in future years.

Belleringer Thu 04-Aug-16 09:52:25

My grandson hated facing his mum when in the buggy - he wanted to see where he was going and what was going on. She can talk to him just as well and point things out to him that he wouldn't be able to see if he was facing her.

Gononsuch Thu 04-Aug-16 09:57:06

Do you know I'm 68 and I love IT. It will save the world and it could destroy it, but its here and I will use it. I never had a 'mobile when i was pushing my young ones about and the DG are walking now so it just hasn't come up, but I can understand it Texting with Twitter must have been what doG meant when he said paradise, long may it last.

P.S
Thanks to DaphneBroon I now use it with my shopping, OH head is out of date.

Lyndie Thu 04-Aug-16 10:02:30

Not only do parents with young children not communicate with their children, they also do not communicate with their parents! my children are always looking at their phones when they visit. I find things then build up and there is discontent in the family because no one is saying what they have done or what is wrong.

Nannymarg53 Thu 04-Aug-16 10:11:40

I'm laughing to myself because I'm in a work meeting reading these threads!? Whoops! ?

Nannymarg53 Thu 04-Aug-16 10:12:21

Agree totally anyway re mums, phones and pushchairs ?

Legs55 Thu 04-Aug-16 10:15:37

reading the posts I am very proud of my DD & her OH, my DD is a stay at home Mum as DGS is 6 years old & her OH is disabled so she has a busy life but my DGS has grown up with parents who play with him, talk to him although he is allowed tablet on restricted access at times. He plays on his own & has a brilliant imagination, although football is his obsession (that's boys for you), they always read bedtime stories & now he has his school reading book he has to read that every day to one of his parents. He gets taken out to the zoo & parks during the holidays & is a constant "chatterer" - he also knows that he must not interupt adults but say "excuse me" when he wants our attention. No my DGS is not an angel just a well adjusted normal boy.

My DD does always have her phone with her but is not glued to it 24/7. Just wish there were more Mums like her smile

albertina Thu 04-Aug-16 10:18:11

I stopped being a Primary school teacher fifteen years ago. I was the Special needs co-ordinator. One of my first aims was to get the children I worked with to look at my face while we talked.Many children were failing to interact normally because they had missed out on the vital eye to eye contact and chatter from Mum and Dad in early years.

Now we have the added complication of parents who are addicted to mobile devices and tablets. I pity any teacher now, but most of all I pity these poor children.

Victoria08 Thu 04-Aug-16 10:20:36

I felt like crying after reading all the above comments.
Not because I disagree, I totally do agree with all the comments.

It makes me so sad that there are a breed of young ignorant, idiotic females allowed to have children.
I feel that this constant ignoring and talking on their mobiles is a form of child neglect.
Also, not so young mums are just as guilty.
My conscience wouldn't let me do that to my grandson.
He has lots of stimulation from his mum and dad, but I'm sure a lot of these neglected kids don't get very much.

It's so so sad.

BRedhead59 Thu 04-Aug-16 10:35:52

Apparently we all spend hours on our devices(speak for yourself) and you can now book a holiday in a yurt to detox without them. There are always leeches ready to ride on the back of the latest perceived problem and make money out of us.

micmc47 Thu 04-Aug-16 10:46:01

Sadly, this doesn't just apply to Mums. It's a universal trend. Here's one of my poems in my local Geordie vernacular which sums it all up for me... A Lost Art?
Ah love te meet wi’ friends, an’ te hev a reet good chat,
A smashin’ way te pass the time, discussin’ this ‘n that,
As wuh set the whorld te reets that chat’s a fav’rite occupation,
A chance te join wi’ others in the art o’conversation.
But as ah look aroond these days ah worry when a see,
So many bad examples of hoo things hev come te be.
Two lasses on the Metro left wuh feelin’ ahll perplexed,
As thuh sat next te each other te communicate by text.
Heids pointed doon an’ fingers flyin, total introspection,
As thuh “tahlked” there te each other, wi’ nee meaningful connection.
Ah’ve seen a family in a pub, ahll gathered fer a meal,
It’s nee exaggeration, an’ te me it seemed surreal,
Mam an’ Dad an’ both the bairns, wi’ i-pads in thuh’re hand,
Thuh may as well have been apart, ahll in some distant land,
In sep’rate worlds thuh surf the net, oblivious o’ each other,
Just hoo does that fit in wi’ bein’ a Fatha or a Motha?
So is it any wonder that when youngsters dee speak oot,
The noises that thuh make are a meagre substitute,
Fer “proppah” English language, wi’ a sentence ahll expressed,
Wi’ grammar an’ vocabulary suitably addressed.
Nee “ah wuz like” an’ “she wuz like”, such tortured, mangled speech,
Wi’ constant interjections as thuh struggle there te reach,
Fer the words te tell thuh’re story, as thuh’re forebears used te dee,
Wi’ such easy, practiced reference te a wide vocab’lary.
Ah see recorded interviews wi’ people in the street,
A “vox pop” scene from years gone by, wi’ sentences complete,
So very diff’rent from teday, ah sometimes wonder whether,
The person bein’ interviewed can string three words together,
Withoot “yuh knah” or “kind o’ like”, or usin’ that ”ah mean”,
Te fill those yawnin’ gaps where those lost words would once have been.
An’ even social gatherin’s whork against good conversation,
Wi’ some bliddy ahwful disco blockin’ ahll communication,
As yuh sit an’ strain te lip-read what yuh’re neighbours try te say,
But the decibels still triumph, an’ those words just fade away,
So yuh smile an’ nod, an’ then give up, another chance is lost,
Te communicate wi’ others, an’ it ahll comes at a cost.
At heart wuh’re social animals, an’ wuh hev the gift o’ speech,
Te serve wor complex lifestyles, te help wuz ahll te reach,
A proppah understandin’ o’ what brings wuz ahll together,
Te cement a lastin’ friendship teks some concentrated blether.
So ah’m makin’ nee apologies, an ah may be an’ auld fahrt,
But ah mourn fer conversation, fast becomin’ a lost art…

Diddy1 Thu 04-Aug-16 10:46:17

Totally agree with everyone, too many Mums pushing their children around whle chatting on their mobiles, no interaction, no wonder when the children are old enough they too sit with their i-pads,on computers etc, after being ignored when young and the example set by Mum always on the phone. Agree with readers about people talking on phones so loudly on public transport, telling the whole bus about unimportant things, terribly important to them of course. I love getting on a bus and being able to talk to someone face to face.

Nan52 Thu 04-Aug-16 10:55:06

Was in the park with my GS who was on the swing when a little boy nearly ran into him I just managed to stop him from being knocked down...what was the mother doing talking on her phone and not even looking in his direction...I told her what happened but all she mumbled was 'thanks'and carried on talking... ahhhh

Grannygee Thu 04-Aug-16 10:59:47

I agree with all the above. It makes my blood boil as well as making me feel so sad! What on earth will the effect be on these neglected children. Their general knowledge begins so early and all the hours these parents spend over all on their phones/tablets etc are missed opportunities to speak and play with their children. I was a stay at home mum and my two are 36 and 33 now. I look back at my short time with them at home and realise what a short time it is was! Just a fraction of life. Do these people realise that one day they'll look back and think how little they interacted with their children? I wonder...it's tantamount to neglect really when you think how often these children ask for attention and don't get it. What troubles it's brewing for the future. Sorry to be a misery but Infeel this very strongly.
Brighter note... My daughter and my two grandsons arrive this morning for a week and the old toys are all out ready. I shouldn't be doing this really... My husband's being neglected! smile

townie Thu 04-Aug-16 11:06:10

I do agree with some of the valid points made here about the over use of iPhones, tablets, etc - something I'm guilty of myself often. And of course the need to communicate with, read to, etc, babies and children.

But iPhones are a fact of life and I don't like the general tone in this thread of judging young mothers, tutting at them - and even,in the case of one poster, disapproval that some of them are 'allowed' to have children.

Threads/ posts like this with blanket criticism of modern times and of the next generation of mothers, claiming everything was much better 'in our day' is one GN's less attractive features for me. One of the reasons I spend much more time on MN. I like to look forward, not back, not wring my hands.

Rosina Thu 04-Aug-16 11:18:24

I really do have such anxieties about this particular topic as a friend told me that her daughter spends hours every day on the phone while ignoring her child at mealtimes, and talking or texting/reading messages while out. It's like a compulsion or addiction, and I understand it a little because having a smart phone myself if I hear it 'ping' I feel a need to check.However, I restrain myself as there is nothing that is so important that it can't wait until I get home. These stories are so sad; what can there be that is more important than talking to your child as they grow and sharing your life with them - so precious.

Lewlew Thu 04-Aug-16 11:26:34

millymouge I totally agree. And some day the children of these media-mobile obsessed people will be not only ignoring them, they will be chucking their parents into a care home where they can carry on ignoring them the way they were ignored. wink

Maybe they will be better parents themselves for having been ignored, or will the problem just escalate down the generations? hmm

Grannygee Thu 04-Aug-16 11:35:34

My husband said about all of this that 'the wrong people are reading it'. But I think we're up against addiction really. That is what was said on the news this morning, that people are becoming addicted to these things.

Diddy1 Thu 04-Aug-16 11:38:40

Must write about a mobile obsessed neighbour we have, she is 64! we invite her and DH of hers in for a drink sometimes, she immediately takes out her mobile or i-pad, if she has something very importnt to show us, as soon you ask a question she "GOOGLES",then goes on to show something else, never eye contact. I bought a little sign the other day "Mobile free zone" I dont think she will even see it. Anyone else with mobile obssesed mature people? a few tips on what to do please.

boggles Thu 04-Aug-16 11:51:11

Never mind, a lot of young people make mistakes - most of us are.

soozymcdoozy Thu 04-Aug-16 11:53:31

Mums on their phones
I can go one better than than. Friends of mine's daughter and Sil sent their children to day nursery from the age of 1, between the hours of 8am and 6pm, five days per week. They both work fulltime. To reiterate the question - why have children if you never see them. Yes, they have a lovely house and go on great holidays, but what about quality time.
Luckily they have wonderful grandparents who look after them after school and in the hols and they are darling children. We see them from time to time.
I worked when mine were little but part time when Dad was around and I didn't miss a thing. Thankfully my children and I are still incredibly close aged 30 and 34!

Emelle Thu 04-Aug-16 12:00:49

Fortunately my own family spend vast amounts of time with their children and as result all the grandchildren are all doing really well at nursery and school. Our two older grandsons are also totally bi-lingual as their father is French and only ever speaks French to the boys - what a gift that is!
As a recently retired teacher, I am only too well aware of the detrimental impact the lack of interaction between parents and their children has on the young ones.
I despaired because of the mammoth task we were facing to 'narrow the gap' between these children and their peers who had already been given more support and opportunities even before starting school.

townie Thu 04-Aug-16 12:40:33

Oh dear, now the disapproval is turning to working mums! Definitely not the thread for me. I don't generally read threads on those sort of topics on MN as more interested in other areas but, when I do, am usually pleased to see posters who are SAHMs at least respect the choices of working mums and vice versa - with some exceptions of course! Not so here, it seems as some feel it's OK to question why working mums had children at all!

Grannygee Thu 04-Aug-16 12:42:01

I totally agree with you. It's because really when people are on their phones the whole time they do feel guilty and they know they should be doing more useful or more interesting things. It's also rude isn't it? After all if you're visiting people and you're looking at your phone the whole time you're really saying 'I'm finding this more interesting than you"!

moonbeames Thu 04-Aug-16 13:24:11

I agree with what you are all saying. These days I think it falls to the grandparents to stimulate their grand-childrens imagination, as mothers are always on the phone.
When my two and a half year old grand-daughter comes here, phones are off and we just play. (in between housework, she accepts this also) The games are not on the phones or computers, we play funny little games out of anything that is in the house. We have fun with books, making games out of a bit of string and we go fishing with bits of string. We have such fun, costs nothing but attention from us.
We laugh so much, her verbal skills are amazing, we read to her when we have her every night, she is now making up stories of her own. Her imagination is just amazing. She had confidence in herself, she can have fun with the most simple of things. We look at the mountains, we look at the clouds for shapes, we walk in the garden and have fun with the flowers. She loves it. She is developing quickly, this week we even played a kind of snap game with her little frozen cards. She would match the cards that came up and put them into a pile. No words of snap as yet as she is not quite three. She loves it. "Nanny can we play cards" please. What a pleasure it is, all so natural and normal and no phones, ipads or whatever else. She is a trick and so smart. (sorry Nanny B is a bit biased!)