MissAdventure I think you've made a very interesting point.
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SubscribeAIBU about the time my husband spends with his mother. 4 years ago we moved to France and bought our dream home to retire and spend time together now our children are grown up. We have been married for 13 years. About 18 months after we moved MiL, who I'm very fond of, became ill and ended up in hospital for several months and naturally DH went back to help. He stayed for nearly 3 months and slept on the floor of her tiny one bedroom flat. Eventually MiL moved into a care home and has been slowly progressing to dementia. DH insists on going over twice a month for at least a week each time and often stays longer. He stays with his sister and her husband who live near the care home.
This means for the last 2 years he has spent more time there than at home. He says he can't reassure me that things will change until she passes away. MiL is 95 and I am 70. Clearly that could be sooner or later.....who knows? In the meantime I am living on my own and see the years go by.
AIBU......I honestly don't know. All I know is that much as I go out and have made some friends etc I don't want to live here on my own nor do I want to move back to the UK.
MissAdventure I think you've made a very interesting point.
I thought it was quite interesting too, silver.
It came to me this morning. I think a lot of men struggle with retirement, and the need to be doing something.
Of course we should care for and about our parents, if we still have them, but we cannot see into the future for ourselves.
My husband was a very fit and active man and we lived life to the full, but two years ago a stroke ended all that within minutes and I am now his carer. His altered personality and frequent bouts of depression are as difficult to cope with as his physical disabilities.
I'm sorry - I feel you are being unreasonable - my mum with dementia was in a home and I was 200 miles each way away. I am an only and was seriously upset when we drove down for me to see her, to be told that my DDs had told the home that she didn't want to see me (a downright lie!) and she died months later with us not being able to say our final goodbyes. I still feel guilty and your DH would feel the same about his mum. Bear with him. Could you not arrange to visit and stay in a guest house on some of his visits? He'll be lucky to have his mum for more than a few years - you, at 70, almost certainly, have the best part of 15-20, if not longer. But you must clear the air and sort this out.
Skweek1: "... you, at 70, almost certainly, have the best part of 15-20 (years), if not longer."
The other view is that, in your 70s, anything could happen at any time (as it did to my husband and me).
I, too, cared for my mother long-distance for two years until her death at the age of 92. She was a widow for 25 years. I know what it's like when you have to balance the needs of multiple people including yourself and what you can cope with.
This couple needs to sort out their priorities. The OP is not being unreasonable.
I agree with Skweek1; of course, anything can happent to anyone at any time, but it is unlikely that his mother is going to live for more than another 5 years, which is certainly not true of OP unless she has some major health problem now.
devongirl I disagree very strongly. My husband had no health problems. He was the most unlikely candidate for a stroke. He is now totally dependent on me. It can happen to anyone.
What does having DH (someday to the future) dependent have to do with helping with mum now? If one of the 2 partners became dependent everything would change, but that is not the current situation.
princesspamma
A marvelous job is being done for your PIL .
Perhaps the difference in the OP situation is that her husband has not seen the need to stay in UK and give
I would be sure that the OP would easily accept care of the mother had it been part of their life and built up to be more and more as time went on. Care that they would have happily shouldered together.
Her husband committed to the life in France. Possibly a bit shortsightedly, yes.
There isnt much of a case to be argued when Mother dies about OP forcing him to neglect his Mother.
He already did that by leaving her.
I also think that a lot of posts are mentioning his guilt when Mother dies.
Yes the OP and he have perhaps many years left. He committed to living these years in France with his wife when the Mother was 91.
91!
He was stating that his life came first when he went.
Now he is trying to shift his commitments and cut to half the time the choice he made to go full time.
OP has every right to expect him to live in France full time. He moved there so it is hardly out of order for her to expect him to stay there.
If his intention was to spend so much time at his Mothers bedside should she become ill then he should have stayed in the UK.
His wife would have had him in her life, he could have support from her and they would have shared their life with his Mother.
This however was not the choice made.
I hardly think they moved without discussing Mothers future and OP would not have gone had he stated he saw his future spending half his time in the UK with his Mother.
How would any of your Mothers feel if you swanned off to France when they were 91.
Yes we all want to look after our parents.
Yes most of you do and have done.
The point is , he left his Mother for France when she was 91.
So he is not like all of you who have and do care so much for their parents.
None of you with love for parents would move to France and leave would you ?
He committed to a new life where he could not look after her. Now he wants to move the goalposts and neglect his new life.
He risked his Mother feeling abandoned and not important , how must the poor woman have felt when he planned his new life and went off
. Maybe the upset and stress of her son leaving contributed to her downhill health.
Bit hypocritical to play the dutiful son now.
There are plenty of people whose sons or daughters have emigrated. Parents of grown up children will be, if not already elderly, advancing towards old age. They will be in the same position at some point in time so I don't understand why this lady's age is pivotal to the discussion.
His mother hasn't been left entirely on her own as there is still family in the UK. I think it is good that her son is concerned for her wellbeing and has not landed the whole responsibility on those remaining in the UK (as I know some people do). However, I think to spend this amount of time away from his wife is excessive and unfair - unless she has the opportunity to go with him.
Maybe the reality of living in France hasn't met his expectations but he's ducking out of saying so.
I wouldn't place too much faith it people having 'this long' or 'that long' left. Life often has different ideas on the score.
A lot of people have commented on us leaving to move to France when my MiL was already 91. The assumption is that we were living near her and decided to move a long way away. We already lived some distance away and had considered various places in the Uk to retire to. In fact the journey from where we live in France to where she lives in SE England is easier, quicker and cheaper (by Ryanair) than many other places we considered in the UK. Also the decision was based on creating a holiday base for our children and grandchildren so we would see more of them. MiL was a consideration too, if course, and as she was in robust health we hoped she might come and stay with us. She was a generous spirited person and enthusiastic about our move.
However, tbh as a result of this posting and everyone's thoughful replies I realise that although I love living in France (and don't regret the move here) I wouldn't be feeling so anxious/aggrieved at being on my own if I was still living in the UK (language, dealing with accidents or illness etc). This has been an interesting realisation and I can give more thought to how to deal with the situation now.
Thanks again to everyone.
Hope it all works out Silverlining always good to have other input however (bad) it is
Take care and good luck xx
Thank you BlueBelle xx
Good luck, Silverlining. Get your ducks all in a row - or at least your thoughts and the financial implications.
Silver is your MIL 's flat still available or was it rented and given up etc? If it is available would it be possible for you bothe to stay there some of the time and split your time between there and France?
By the way where are you in France? We are in 24.
Hi Welshwife, that would have been a great solution but MiL had a council flat that had to be vacated when she went into a care home.
I'm in 47......it would be interesting to know how many GNs live in France.
I feel there's been a lot of doubt cast because OP's husband left UKwhen she was 91. Maybe she was well then - it is always a shock when our parents deteriorate, it doesn't matter what age they are, his attitude could easily have changed in those 4 years.
I think it would be reasonable to discuss anything that had changed, be that his attitude to his mum, living in France, retirement plans, etc.
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