.. to be appalled by this news about Jacob Rees-Mogg on GMB today

No .Jen, I am speaking the truth , Corbyn worked against us

Corbyn worked against us so much as you are doing now then Annie and have been doing since I first joined GN.

No Trisher, I am not.

trisher

Interesting you mention 'since you joined'.

When I 'joined' GN Anniebach was and is accepted by many as being staunch Labour unlike a few posters who have 'returned' to Labour after telling posters NOT to vote Labour and put links up to other Parties on many occasions.

anniebach You are extremely rude and some of your comments, e.g. the one where you talk of Corbyn betraying your friend who had cancer, are verging on the unhinged.

Not at all Eleothan, just speaking the truth, those who trust him have the problem of possibly - to use your words - verging on the unhinged ?

theconversation.com/jacob-rees-mogg-thinks-his-anti-abortion-stance-doesnt-matter-heres-why-he-is-wrong-83594

There are two bills going through parliament to try and restrict the time for women to have abortions. Rees-Mogg will vote in favour of both of them, regardless of his constituents wishes.
Anyone believe that Rees-Mogg has only had sex six times?

How many times anyone has sex has never been something I have ever thought of , wouldn't want to

I yield to nobody in my contempt for Rees-Mogg, dj, but a parliamentary democracy can only work if MPs, while taking into account the views of their constituents, are free to vote as they think fit. Otherwise we just have populism.

His obnoxious views should not be used to attack the principle.

dj I wish you wouldn't add snide comments in your posts - it demeans the opinions you hold and I, for one, am put off reading what might be an enlightening link.
I have no affiliation to any political party anymore, partly because of the vitriol posted by all parties on social media. I don't trusted Corbin anymore than I trust May ...

If you read the link, you will see it's not a snide remark.
The link is about a woman's right to own her own body and sexuality.
It's about the Catholic church's ideas on contraception and procreation.

"The opposition to abortion within the Catholic Church has to be understood in the broader context of its understanding of women and motherhood. Within the Catholic Church, alongside abortion, contraception is also prohibited and this is interlinked with a belief that motherhood is seen as women’s natural calling. In this line of reasoning, every occasion of heterosexual activity binds women into accepting a child if one is conceived (and whether or not it was consensual).

This understanding of women as naturally mothers who can only have sex if they accept the consequences is no longer routinely used to deny women education or employment, but is still present in the opposition to abortion. It is active in the voting record of Rees-Mogg, who has tried to restrict abortion but also voted in favour of the budget which restricted welfare benefits for families who have more than two children in July 2015. The logical consequence of this is that poorer women should just not have sex. "

Just so you don't have to bother finding that part of the link.
Does Rees-Mogg only care about the abortion side of Catholicism or does he follow their teachings on contraception?

Another 'irony'.

How many times posters have said :-

'MP's should vote with their conscience"

'Using the whip in Parliament is wrong MP's have the right to vote as they see fit '.

You and I will not agree with all of our MP's because thank goodness we live in a Democracy, although that is becoming a bone of contention lately.

To expect or demand all MP's vote as we would do is not only narcissistic it is a dangerous path that leads to lord knows where.

The intolerance of the principle ' One Man One Vote ' has grown out of proportion and to be honest I think we are sailing into dangerous waters when our MP's are ALL subject to such abuse and vilification as we see and hear to date.

Am I alone in thinking it has escalated over the last couple of years?

I have never known so many MP's , from all parties, publicly declaring having to deal with 'fake news' , ' hate abuse' 'personal threats' etc. as we have seen and heard of late.

But I am asking about what his conscience tells him. We know what he thinks on abortion, but not on contraception.
Both are important tenets of a Catholic faith, surely.

As contraception is sod all to do with parliament why discuss it on a politics thread . As for concern over a persons conscience , why is it acceptable to discuss one MP's conscience but not another MP's lack of conscience

Does anyone care how often an MP has sex and if they use contraception.

An unhealthy subject to dwell on in my opinion

Rees--Mogg said that as far as abortion is concerned, he obeys a higher whip than the government whip.
That should be so as far as contraception is concerned, surely, so how come he only has six children?

Or does he just choose what he wants out of the Catholic faith?

He is a filthy rich "Hooray Henry" and he does not need to worry about the number of children he has and has no compassion for understanding about other peoples lives.

It reminds me of Boris Johnsons father congratulating himself about having the foresight to save enough money to send his sons to Eton . When most people just about earn enough to keep a roof above their heads .

He has been married 10 years, you claim to have done family history research, check

Big gap between child 4 and child 5.
Over 3 years of contraception?
Surely against his Catholic faith.

Not really. 5 years between my sister and I. I just took that long to be conceived.

No idea, not concerned about people's sex lives, you carry on if you find it interesting. This has sunk too low for me, yuck

Really scraping the barrel now durhamjen with your posts.

X posts Anniebach I was going to add yuck too!

Actually durhamjen instead of insisting on knowing Rees-Moggs sexual habits could you answer the 2 posts I have asked for answers to maybe?

POGS Fri 08-Sep-17 20:57:28
I ask again.

POGS Fri 08-Sep-17 00:50:53
Durhamjen , you state:-

"He also belongs to a group that wants to repatriate black and Asian britons. Not sure where to."
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"But that doesn't matter to you because Rees-Mogg is such a nice man that he wants to send black and Asian britons back where they came from"
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You have made serious allegations , once again.

Will you provide evidence of membership please to substantiate your term 'he belongs to' a group that wants to repatriate black and Asian Britons .

You have made a declaration Rees-Mogg " wants to send black and Asian Britons back to where they come from".
Can you provide evidence that is his opinion and has stated this .

I am not asking for where or what you have felt confident to make these allegations because I believe you are making them on the back of his making a dinner speech. I am asking for evidence that what you have stated about Rees-Mogg is from the mouth of the man himself.

You may be correct for all I know but I have no knowledge he has been a 'member' of any group nor stated what you declare him to have said re repatronising anybody"
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I don't think that an answer will be forthcoming POGS
And you have to wonder why?

lemongrove

durhamjen could well be right in her post but if there is no 'factual' evidence of the statements made then we are back to 'fake news' or worse .

However I trust durhamjen will provide the factual evidence and I will say thank you.