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AIBU in thinking that the appalling behaviour in Parliament is reflecting the general mood when it should be trying to set an example to improve relations with each other?

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Shinyredcar Thu 26-Sept-19 10:17:30

Disrespect, lurid language, extreme reactions seem to be becoming normal in general life at present. It doesn't seem to matter what the topic, or who the people are who are speaking.

I watched the House of Commons proceedings yesterday to find out what was happening. I was impressed by the Attorney General at first but then, even very senior lawyer as he is, he fell into a rant. After hours of yelling, catcalling, rabble-rousing and insults, I switched off.

I am not happy to find that the people the world sees as representing my country choose to appear intemperate and blinkered. They seem to think that insulting people who don't agree with them (on just about any topic) is a valid form of debate. I have to guess what their own views are by working them out from how much energy they spend on being offensive about other people and their opinions. I would far rather hear a measured statement of what they really think.

I am wryly amused to reflect that my primary school teacher would have taken the culprits aside and told them it's not big, and it's not clever. Perhaps their grandparents ought to take them to task?

Am I just being old-fashioned in thinking that people in authority should set a good example?

abbey Fri 27-Sept-19 19:50:11

Framilode, you and I will have to disagree. You see as a remainer ( I suspect) you saw a dealwhen in fact it was a treaty to remain in the EU. It was not a document to leave the EU.

This has carried on and it is still the problem with Parliament and remain MP's ( not to mention their followers) now. Their idea of a "deal" is to stay in the EU - at least the "dumbs" are honest about it. The rest of you keep trying to look oh so reasonable whilst being lying duplicitous rats or worse, completely brainwashed into thinking it is OK.

Gemini1789 Tue 01-Oct-19 18:04:31

I think Bercow has a lot to answer for. He lets the ( searching for a word here ) go too far. I think he rather enjoys it too. If he stopped the nastiness at an earlier stage it might not escalate.
Imho which is based on what I view on tv and without any intellectual background the adversarial set up encourages ill feeling.
Having said that I do like watching Bercow. He is great entertainment on a moderate day. Hope his replacement isn't dry dull and boring.

eazybee Tue 01-Oct-19 18:16:21

The appalling behaviour in Parliament at present is initiating the general mood of discontent in the country when we see our elected representatives behaving in a way that would not be tolerated in any school. I hold John Bercow i very much responsible for the lapse in general manners and conduct, as he has ignored the requirement for the speaker to be impartial and failed to promote reasonable standards of behaviour in debate.
He was a bad appointment, made for the wrong reasons, and has outstayed his term in office to disastrous effect.
It will take great strength of character to restore this unruly Parliament to some semblance of order; it has scented blood and will be difficult to control.
I am ashamed of them.

Tooting29 Mon 04-Nov-19 08:12:41

No you are not being unreasonable. The behaviour in Parliament in the past weeks has been deplorable. Grandstanding, braying posh white males acting like playground bullies What is lacking is proper debate, proper scrutiny, All you get is the same lines over and over again

ladymuck Mon 04-Nov-19 09:15:57

Why do the threads on here so often descend into personal attacks on other posters? If you feel the need to insult other GNetters, why don't you switch to private messages? I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels very uncomfortable at reading these posts.

As for the subject....I am very concerned at the behaviour of our MPs. They seem to have little self-respect or dignity. We wouldn't tolerate that sort of rowdiness from school children. Yet these are the people who are running our country. How can we have faith in their judgement, when they act on their emotions instead of common sense and rational thinking.

Gonegirl Mon 04-Nov-19 09:46:06

I suppose we are in a very unusual situation. Parliament doesn't often have to make such a big decision as this one. Tempers are bound to be frayed. I think we should give them some leeway. You only have to look at social media to see that the general public are worse than they are.

Don't think this thread should be used to put more of your own views on Brexit over. Not what the OP is all about tbh.

Doodle Mon 04-Nov-19 21:10:23

jura you frequently post about the fact that you know a lot of youngsters ( more and more even) on the Remain side who are choosing to distance themselves from their parents and grandparents. I hate to think what sort of people you mix with where years of paternal love and care can be swept away over Brexit. I thank God my family (I have no idea how they voted and they have no idea how we voted because none of us asked) have more sense and look to what is important in life. Love and family and future generations. You will no doubt come back and tell me it is because of the future generations that you are so incensed and voted as you did but what is the point of it all if families fall out with each other.