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Empathy for Our Queen? ( As a Mother)

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Bridgeit Wed 20-Nov-19 14:52:39

In the light of recent events, and as mothers & Grandmothers
How much empathy/ sympathy do we have for The Queen ?

She has always been so stoic, & has now been badly let down, will she / should she consider sending PA to the tower ( or the outer Hebrides) for a cooling off period. ?
She certainly does not deserve this at her time of life & dedication to her role.
I definitely feel for her, The Christmas speech should be interesting !

grapefruitpip Fri 22-Nov-19 11:00:47

Ah, got it now. Thought it was about memes.

Anniebach Fri 22-Nov-19 11:01:37

A meme pair are a couple who visit deprived people in S.A.
But complain about their own problems, ‘no one asked if I was ok ‘ etc

ReadyMeals Fri 22-Nov-19 11:08:55

Now the press are making some issue about "no one in the royal family is texting them or checking on them". Well they're adults, in mid life, with enough money for their needs and more. They are capable of finding their own help and support systems. In case they hadn't noticed, other members of the family are going through somewhat worse problems, and worse bad press right now than Meghan's been complaining of. The DofE's health has taken a downturn, the Queen is finding it hard to get away and be with him. Andrew has pretty much had the rug pulled out from under his life and his daughters through no fault of their own face a new path in life. Fergie is going to be bankrupt again. Kate's got sick kids (hopefully just a touch of noro) . Anyway how about the Sussexes reaching out to some of them? That might be a good way to get back into the fold.

grapefruitpip Fri 22-Nov-19 11:12:54

I think you can see poverty and also feel sad about your own stuff. That's one of the greatest ironies. If only we could look to people " worse off than ourselves " and snap out of it.

suziewoozie Fri 22-Nov-19 11:18:11

Here we go here we go here we

suziewoozie Fri 22-Nov-19 11:21:44

B and E facing a new path in life through no fault of their own? Well up to now they’ve faced an entitled over privileged path in life through no effort of their own.

ReadyMeals Fri 22-Nov-19 11:28:42

True, Suzie, but my point is that they're still going to have negative feelings about it and some degree of stress. This could be an opportunity for Harry to contact his cousins and offer some empathy. It might be a start to getting close to the family again.

suziewoozie Fri 22-Nov-19 12:26:19

We don’t know who’s contacting who though do we? We know there’s spin, PR, MegHan hatred, those on GN who post as though they have a hotline to BP but we know for sure that PA is a bloody disgrace

Framilode Fri 22-Nov-19 12:46:18

Prince Andrew has been photographed out riding with the Queen today. She must have known they would be photographed so I think we can take that as a show of support for him.

ReadyMeals Fri 22-Nov-19 12:52:58

Suzie we don't know for sure I agree; you can assume that most of what any of us say about the royals is only second hand via journalists. Otherwise we'd not be able to discuss anything in the news at all.

Bridgeit Fri 22-Nov-19 12:54:04

OR a right Royal Ear Bashing!

suziewoozie Fri 22-Nov-19 12:54:49

Ready there are facts and what someone just made up.

suziewoozie Fri 22-Nov-19 12:55:32

HM has no shame - she’s no longer fit for purpose.

Lisagran Fri 22-Nov-19 13:05:05

Anniebach -

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_meme

Meme - not “me me” (it’s all about me)

ReadyMeals Fri 22-Nov-19 13:18:58

Oh that, right smile

ReadyMeals Fri 22-Nov-19 13:26:09

No I can understand the Queen wanting to offer some emotional and social support to her son no matter what he's done. But she is also The Queen not just a mother. It could really be time for her to consider retiring with her husband and beginning to lead a private life where she can just be herself and not have to worry about what The Public think. I believe at this point Prince Charles has all the personal authority he needs to become Prince Regent.

suziewoozie Fri 22-Nov-19 14:09:30

HM has hundreds of doors behind which she can offer support to PA. By choosing deliberately to be photographed with him is her sending a very clear message to all abused and exploited girls and young women. In public she’s the queen and should behave as if she cares about the nation. In private it’s her choice.

Callistemon Fri 22-Nov-19 14:25:35

Readymeals that was a fairly comprehensive update, thank you grin

You forgot to mention the heir to the throne and his wife doing their duty in New Zealand; their hosts are doing an excellent job and C & C look as if they're enjoying themselves and being given a real New Zealand welcome.

I do enjoy a Maori haka

Callistemon Fri 22-Nov-19 14:28:40

Framilode perhaps she was giving him a regal bollocking out of earshot of everyone.

Callistemon Fri 22-Nov-19 14:31:37

I don't think that is true, suziewoozie; walls and doors have ears and the only place to have a private conversation would be in the countryside, just the two of them, with only the horses to listen in.

suziewoozie Fri 22-Nov-19 14:38:28

Don’t buy that I really don’t. But tbf no one knows for sure I suppose but it sounds highly unlike.y that she can’t have a private conversation anywhere at all on all the royal and private estates at her disposal?

merlotgran Fri 22-Nov-19 14:41:59

There were four of them riding out. The Queen, PA, a blond lady and possibly a groom.

Callistemon Fri 22-Nov-19 14:43:23

She'd have to temper her language then!

suziewoozie Fri 22-Nov-19 14:44:16

Well really private then.

Lisagran Fri 22-Nov-19 15:15:50

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