Callistemon You can find out here. labour.org.uk/manifesto/
Gransnet forums
AIBU
funding Labour manifesto promises
(159 Posts)I was listening to a Conservative (minister?) talking on Today this morning, and criticising Lasbour for needing to put up taxes, whereas their promises were freebies (yeah right).
AIBU to think that if we are to get better services of whatever sort, we would/should expect to pay for them? after all, in our private lives this is our experience every day - if you want to have something, you have to pay for it, above and beyond what you would otherwise have spent.
Am I missing something here??
How exactly the WASPI women would be refunded was not
In the manifesto, and adding this £58b uncosted amount to the LP’s already incredible ( literally) spending plans tells everyone all they need to know about this wannabe government.They won’t get away with it easily as a promise, it’s already being pulled to pieces by all commentators currently on tv.
They are so far behind in the polls that they are trying every trick in the book.
GracesGranMK3. My money/assets accumulated over my lifetime using my money which has been taxed at source. Should be mine to do/give as I wish.
Labour want to cap gifts/inheritance over our lifetime tax free up to £125,000, which in my opinion is wrong.
*GGMk3 my comment was in response to your post of Sat 23-Nov-19 13:16:24
"I can assure you that a “Netflix subscription” is an awful lot less than the extra tax I as an individual will pay under Corbyns Labour."
Not clear to me what other massive tax Labour is proposing the would affect you so much..
Lemongrove, you know that is not what I said. You initially said it was not mentioned. You are now wriggling because you know that is untrue. It will be untrue if everything is dumbed down to opinion with not an iota of an attempt made to check the facts. That becomes insulting when attempts are then made to imply the misconstruction is someone else's fault.
In the chapter on "Pensions" the LP manifesto says:
People work hard for most of their lives and deserve a decent retirement free of financial stress and insecurity.
Under the Tories, 400,000 pensioners have been pushed into poverty and a generation of women born in the 1950s have had their pension age changed without fair notification. This betrayal left millions of women with no time to make alternative plans – with sometimes devastating personal consequences.
Labour recognises this injustice, and will work with these women to design a system of recompense for the losses and insecurity they have suffered.
We will ensure that such an injustice can never happen again by legislating to prevent accrued rights to the state pension from being changed.
The Conservatives have repeatedly raised the state pension age despite overseeing a decline in life expectancy. Labour will abandon the Tories’ plans to raise the State Pension Age, leaving it at 66. We will review retirement ages for physically arduous and stressful occupations, including shift workers, in the public and private sectors.
We will maintain the ‘triple lock’ and guarantee the Winter Fuel Payment, free TV licences and free bus passes as universal benefits.
Thanks to automatic enrolment, which was introduced by the last Labour government, record numbers of employees are now in workplace pension schemes. But too many people are still not saving enough for a comfortable retirement.
We will stop people being auto-enrolled into rip-off schemes and seek to widen and expand access for more low-income and self-employed workers. We will establish an independent Pensions’ Commission, modelled on the Low Pay Commission, to recommend target levels for workplace pensions.
We will create a single, comprehensive and publicly run pensions dashboard that is fully transparent, including information about costs and charges.
We will legislate to allow the CWURoyal Mail agreement for a collective pension scheme to proceed and allow similar schemes.
Labour has listened to the NUM and in government will end the injustice of the state taking 50% of the surplus in the Mineworkers’ Pension Scheme and introduce new sharing arrangements so that 10% goes to government and 90% stays with scheme members. This new sharing arrangement will also apply to the British Coal Staff Superannuation Scheme.
We will ensure that the pensions of UK citizens living overseas rise in line with pensions in Britain.
You would not by a house without reading the document so why throw away remarks about our future without doing so?
We hold different opinions GG13. I don't think people shouldn't inherit wealth, I just believe that they should pay the same tax as those who work for what they get. It appears your children are in both those categories.
Money churns around the economy. Paying tax on each transaction is not exceptional. Thinking we should not pay taxes on each transaction may be.
It’s an uncosted promise at odds with what McDonnell said a few days ago.
It’s quite obviously a wheeze to grab voters .....this fantasy to refund women to the tune of £58b which was not in the manifesto cannot be believed by anyone.
If it had been in the manifesto the means to fund it would have been clear.
"I can assure you that a “Netflix subscription” is an awful lot less than the extra tax I as an individual will pay under Corbyns Labour."
I haven't time to look back humptydumpty but I don't believe I said that. I know nothing about Netflix and I would have put an apostrophe in Corbyn's or my software would have shouted at me.
I still, old-fashioned me, think it is rude to ask someone what their income is.
Lemongrove, the words you used were, shall we say, not accurate. You keep challenging that fact because you need to be right. If people checked and referenced we would not get the continuous dumbing down of what purports to be the truth.
Elsewhere I also wrote something about why this would not be costed in a manifesto. I am not going to repeat myself.
Thank goodness for that.
GGMK3 I do not think that death can be called “a transaction”.
Inheritance is GG13.
I see it was actually you would wrote the "Netflix" comment humptydumpty asked me about. It appears your wealth is an issue to you all-round.
Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.
My profound apologies, GGMk3, my comment was, in fact, as I originally posted it, a response to GG13. Looking through the thread, I can see that my political views are close to yours.
Also, even to GG13, it wasn't meant to be rude, more of an exclamation, rhetorical, hence the exclamation mark.
humptydumpty My income is between my accountant, the taxman and myself.
Easily done humptydumpty
And the government GG13.
GGMK3 I can assure you that “my wealth” as you put it is certainly not an issue to me, however wealth at any level does seem to be an issue for Labour Party supporters!!!
Only because it is gained at the poverty of others GG13. Even it up a bit more like other economies of our size and what would anyone have to complain about?
GGMK3 Your last post is insulting!!!
I don’t have much money but I have enough as my needs are less than my wants.
I don’t envy anyone’s wealth. If I p**s on your grass it doesn’t make mine grow any better.
My happiness comes from within. My family, my gorgeous grandchildren. I have a kind and loving husband of 45y. I try to be kind and I am fortunate that I enjoy good health and have many friends.
I’m not materialistic.
Good luck to you GG13 and others like you on here. Some GN’s are wealthy.
Life isn’t fair. Never was, never will be. I speak as someone who lost £100,000 at the time of the recession. We can’t get that money back. It’s gone. You learn to draw a line in the sand.
You learn to love what you HAVE.
Urmstongran I totally agree, family and health cannot be bought.
And can’t be taxed either ‼️
Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.
Join the conversation
Registering is free, easy, and means you can join the discussion, watch threads and lots more.
Register now »Already registered? Log in with:
Gransnet »
