grandson punished by not being allowed to visit us.

Isn’t it all moot because the two households shouldn’t be mixing anyway? Or have I missed something?

I thunk you know what I mean Hithere. I'm not talking about legal rights.

Annepl

If something is not a privilege, what is it then?
A right (even if it is not in the legal sense)?how would you call it?

Family/dna link does not give automatic access to anybody or means they have to be involved to anything.

These gps are more than a dna link.

@annepl they don't have rights legal or otherwise. Its a privilage and nothing more. If my child is misbehaving and on restriction then that includes family such as grandparents,older sibilings etc

You simply can't be 'in lockdown' with another household that lives elsewhere - therefore the whole scenario is ridiculous - end of.

Lockdown is not black and white. Parents are being too harsh. Grandparents legally don't have rights but in my view a child has a right to see his grandparents. Its utterly ridiculous to think of it as a privilege.

I think this is one of those Maths puzzles and it's on the wrong thread.

When is a lockdown not a lockdown?
Decipher the contradictions in the puzzle and send your answers on a postcard.
Sorry, a PM.

Unless you all live together you are not on lockdown together. If you live in separate accomodation you should not be mixing. You should tell your dgs that you will look forward to seeing when lock down is over. The rest of us are making do with Skype and sending parcels tonthem or postcards. You should not be teaching dgs to break rules. We are all finding it hard not to cuddle and be with our dgc but most of us have not seen them in person for 6 weeks now so you won't get a lot of sympathy.

Unless ouma comes back and clarifies things it’s really pointless answering as the whole thing doesn’t make sense

The school places are limited. So parents are encouraged to make other arrangements where my daughter lives. Daughter and exhusband are essential government employees and share childcare. The children go between both homes depending on which parent is having a work at home day. It's allowed.

I think some of you missed this post Its not b/w.

The child was being punished. Sometimes when one has a small child, you have to take away something that they value in order to get their attention. An overnight is a privilege and a completely reasonable punishment to be utilized, regardless of lockdown.

it is not for GPs to interfere in how the parents bring up their own children, including discipline.
this lack of respect to the parents' authority over the children is one of the main tensions that can lead to low/no contact.
so by being too bossy, interfering the GPs shoot themselves in the foot, as they are then denied any access to GC.
also the custodial rights of parents with shared responsibility, means children can move between both households. this does not extend to any other households inc GPs. so it is quite black and white in that regard.
just because GPs want like to see GC, does not create a right.

That seems rather mean.

i also don't agree that GPs, or anyone can interfere if the parents smack/spank the child.
in england this is legal, so i don't see how anyone else can interfere. obviously as long as it complies with the law.

Wellbeck the GPs childmind when parents work at the same time . They are essential workers. As I've said before the rules are not b/w.
And yes it is more than a bit mean. This child is very young. Depriving him of his GPs does not sound very loving. The child will remember this.

The kid is grounded. He’s not being deprived of anything.
Seriously get a grip.

No one should ever smack a child. And no one would on my watch!
I think some people just don't realise you're meant to treat a child with love.

He's not grounded. He's not being allowed to visit his grandparents.

I think the main point here is that your grandchild cannot visit you at all because we are in lockdown. It applies to everyone. It isn’t negotiable. You cannot look after your grandchild.
We are unable to provide the childcare that we usually provide for our grandchildren. Our two year old grandson has had to start nursery early because we are no longer allowed to provide the care. His parents were told this and a place acquired for him because they are both key workers, they are doctors.
You cannot provide childcare for your grandson. You must tell his parents and provide no further care.

It's just incredible how many GNters are keen to dodge the rules. If it's representative of wider society, we have little hope of slowing Coronavirus. Don't expect any sympathy from those of us who are complying!

That’s grounding. Not getting to go for a sleepover, regardless of who it’s with, is being grounded. It’s not mean. It’s discipline and proper parenting.

Not much to go on ..

But .. "You cannot attend a sleepover" is considerably different than " You cannot see (insert any name) "

The second is draconian ..

rosecarmel
Here in the UK we are on lockdown. We are only allowed to go to do essential shopping once a week, and one hour of daily exercise per day. Over 70s are advised to stay at home at all times and have shopping delivered or a family member or neighbour to shop for them. We are not allowed to mix households. So if it’s draconian, it’s draconian for everyone. This child should not be visiting his grandparents at all. Grandparents have been told that they must not do their usual childcare, which is why schools and nurseries have remained open for very small numbers of children whose parents are key workers.

oh, how I feel for you, It breaks your heart when you feel your grandchild is treated unfairly! But, as you now know, it isn't allowed for different households to mix.. we are all hurting over this but, it is for their good aswell as us grandparents.