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AIBU to expect to see my new grandson more than once a week/spend time alone with gc?

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grandma1sttime Thu 06-Jan-22 04:30:17

Hello all
My son is engaged and he and his fiancé “DIL” are expecting a baby boy in late February. They also have a 4 y.o girl who is DIL’s from a previous relationship, but my son has raised her since she was 1.5 and considers her his own (she has no contact with bio father.)

I have been feeling rather snubbed as of late. To start, we have repeatedly asked if we could get 4 y.o granddaughter for a few hours to have at our home (alone) and been ignored or told no. My son told me this is because “they” (DIL I am assuming- my son grew up in my house and was never too good to be around us until he met her) but “they” don’t want their children around “thirdhand” smoke. We smoke inside but only in the kitchen with the fan on and it doesn’t smell. I told him that we of course wouldn’t smoke while they were in our house and he said that doesn’t matter because they think that smoke residue sticks to the inside of the house and that we need to stop completely AND get the house deep cleaned PROFESSIONALLY before they will bring our grandchildren to our house.

This is absolutely devastating to us. I don’t think that DIL should be dictating what we do in our own home while they kids aren’t around in order to have us see our grandchildren and bond with them alone. My son said DIL has had two infants in her family pass away from SIDS (mind you over the last two DECADES, so not exactly a common occurrence) and that exposure to “thirdhand” smoke is a non negotiable no for her.

She is so obsessed with this anxiety she has that she’s even said that my husband and I will need to SHOWER, EVERY SINGLE TIME before we come to see the new baby at their house (as again he won’t be allowed at ours.) She says the “doctor recommended” that anyone who smokes (which is JUST US) showers, changes into freshly washed clothes that “have not been exposed to cigarette smoke,” and refrain from smoking until our visit is done. (In addition to washing our hands before holding him which we would of course already do.)

She says that anyone who comes into the house smelling like cigarette smoke (or strong perfume- wouldn’t want us trying to skip our shower) will not be allowed to hold the baby when they arrive. So if she deems that we smell like cigarettes, she will tell us we cannot hold OUR NEWBORN GRANDSON when we come to their house. She even condescendingly said that they would be “HAPPY TO KEEP A CHANGE OF CLOTHES FOR US AT THEIR HOUSE IF WE DON’T THINK WE CAN KEEP OURS SMOKE FREE”

This all leads me to my next point- I complained to my son, explaining that asking us to shower every single time we come will be way too much and is expecting too much, and that we will likely want/need to go out for a cigarette at some point during our visits to the new baby as it’ll be difficult for us to sit for so long without having a smoke.

My son then says “it shouldn’t be too difficult to sit through the visit without smoking as we are only wanting people to stay for around a half an hour, and the showering shouldn’t be too inconvenient as we will only be interested in having any given person over ONCE A WEEK when he’s newborn.”

They want me, who lives 5 minutes away, to contain my visits to once a week for THIRTY MINUTES. He told me this is because they want to “bond as a family” (we are their family?! And we want to bond with him too!) and that DIL will be “bleeding, exhausted and in pain” (I’ve given birth before- this is dramatic.) He also said that DIL wants to give the baby breast milk and that she doesn’t feel comfortable being exposed in front of guests but won’t “feel like” walking up and down the stairs with baby to feed him so guests can stay, so we will be expected to leave when the baby wants to eat and not come again for another week.

I was never close to my mom (DIL is so I’m sure HER mom will get to be there nonstop) but I let my ex husband’s mother come over as much as she wanted after I had my two sons. She also smoked inside and still got to have my children overnight and for visits whenever she wanted because she is THEIR GRANDMOTHER. I am absolutely appalled and so heartbroken over these “rules” that we’ve had put in place. I always thought we had a good relationship with DIL until we really started noticing that she avoids the subject every time we ask to have their daughter alone.

Hetty58 Thu 06-Jan-22 09:16:10

Yep, only here, on 'planet Gransnet' (where there's no pandemic) do people fight to get their hands on small GC, to keep them overnight (WTF?) and battle with their kids, SILs and DILs - to assert their 'rights'.

Back here in the real world its:

'What, you want me to have them again? I only saw them two weeks ago! You go out too much! Can't his mum have them? Well, OK then, but do the LFTs one hour before you leave.

Oh, and tell the mucky little b*****s to get their shoes off in the porch. There was mud all over the hall last time! Make sure you're back by noon on Sunday, though, as I'm going out!'

Madgran77 Thu 06-Jan-22 09:18:10

You are being very unreasonable! And are very lucky that at least your son and DIL are being very cleatr about their expectations! The choice is yours!!

Chewbacca Thu 06-Jan-22 09:22:44

Why do posts like this always appear in the dead of night? hmm

glammanana Thu 06-Jan-22 09:25:52

You ABU not your child its the parents choice

eazybee Thu 06-Jan-22 09:33:18

Like everyone else, I can't believe that grandparents could be quite so intolerant of their son's wishes with regards to the care of the children, and the baby isn't even born yet. If it is true.

Quercus Thu 06-Jan-22 09:41:59

YABU. If you want contact with GC you need to give up smoking. Your DIL's position is perfectly reasonable, yours is not.

Cherrytree59 Thu 06-Jan-22 09:52:34

Reverse post

DiamondLily Thu 06-Jan-22 09:54:29

Hetty58

Yep, only here, on 'planet Gransnet' (where there's no pandemic) do people fight to get their hands on small GC, to keep them overnight (WTF?) and battle with their kids, SILs and DILs - to assert their 'rights'.

Back here in the real world its:

'What, you want me to have them again? I only saw them two weeks ago! You go out too much! Can't his mum have them? Well, OK then, but do the LFTs one hour before you leave.

Oh, and tell the mucky little b*****s to get their shoes off in the porch. There was mud all over the hall last time! Make sure you're back by noon on Sunday, though, as I'm going out!'

Yep, that was more my style of grand-parenting lol ?

I’m always happy to see then, now they’re young adults though….especially as they usually rock up with a bottle of wine…??

TerriBull Thu 06-Jan-22 09:55:07

Chewbacca

Why do posts like this always appear in the dead of night? hmm

May be because they are American and it isn't the middle of the night wherever they are, just a thought!

If this is a genuine dilemma, then I echo everyone else you are being unreasonable, and rather entitled to boot.

GagaJo Thu 06-Jan-22 10:04:01

You're unreasonable. Even without the family history of SIDS, most new parents would have the same rules. My own daughter had those rules when my DGS was a baby.

Smokers are regarded as pariahs, more or less, these days. If you're so desperate to 'bond' with your grandchildren, why not try giving up?

I DO appreciate smoking is a terrible addiction and I sympathise. But I'd do almost anything to continue to have a relationship with my grandson.

At this rate, you'll not only not get to spend time with the grandchildren, you're going to alienate your son too.

Calistemon Thu 06-Jan-22 10:16:49

TerriBull

Chewbacca

Why do posts like this always appear in the dead of night? hmm

May be because they are American and it isn't the middle of the night wherever they are, just a thought!

If this is a genuine dilemma, then I echo everyone else you are being unreasonable, and rather entitled to boot.

Spot on Terribull!

Although the DGC are usually referred to as grandbabies
(I really dislike that term but don't mind me).

Would it not be better for your health to pack up smoking, OP?

Soroptimum Thu 06-Jan-22 10:19:49

Hetty58
So much more like the truth grin

MayBeMaw Thu 06-Jan-22 10:48:37

Hetty58 ??????

Septimia Thu 06-Jan-22 10:58:09

I can understand the desire to spend time with your grandchildren. The rules your son and his partner want you to follow are pretty strict but, as others have said, their children, their rules.

If you do as they ask (and how about giving up smoking and drinking at the same time?) you will at least get to see the children. Over time, they may come to realise that you are reliable and things will relax.

aggie Thu 06-Jan-22 11:01:27

What is this obsession with having small children visit without their parents ?

Allegretto Thu 06-Jan-22 11:01:39

You are being very unreasonable. I am completely with your son and daughter-in-law. I would have hated (& still would hate) to have visitors who smelled of smoke and who popped out to smoke more and refresh the smoky smell. And I’ve never been in a smoker’s house without smelling the smoke, no matter how much they used a fan, an air purifier, or kept windows open. Smoke gets into furniture, carpets, rugs, walls…..
Your family are absolutely right in protecting their family. Be grateful they are caring for the health of their children.

JaneJudge Thu 06-Jan-22 11:03:09

Chewbacca

Why do posts like this always appear in the dead of night? hmm

because she needed a fag in the kitchen with the fan on?

Tulpia Thu 06-Jan-22 11:16:10

This is either made up or an embellished reverse.

V3ra Thu 06-Jan-22 11:34:54

The only other horror missing from this account of "how not to be a grandparent" is the ferocious dog they refuse to keep safely out of the way as they insist it "only wants to play." ?

Poppyred Thu 06-Jan-22 11:53:39

Sorry, clean up your act or it just won’t happen. Up to you now, she has set down the rules.

IS THIS FOR REAL??

Wheniwasyourage Thu 06-Jan-22 11:59:24

As i was reading the OP I was thinking that it seemed familiar, and I see that I am not the only one to have thought so. hmm

Sago Thu 06-Jan-22 12:01:53

It’s a wind up.

M0nica Thu 06-Jan-22 12:16:44

Yes, you are being unreasonable, for all the reasons given above. Although I like others doubt the veracity of the OP.

Hithere Thu 06-Jan-22 12:35:53

OP

You missed that the mother wants to breastfeed and it is not fair as you cannot bottle feed the baby.
The mother is not willing to pump just for you

Jaffacake2 Thu 06-Jan-22 12:50:21

Doing a creative writing course ?