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Mouth open duchess

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Baggs Wed 02-Feb-22 13:16:28

I expect to be told I'm being unreasonable for saying that I wish there were fewer pictures in the press of Kate Middleton (oh yes, you can complain about that too ?) with her mouth open. Today's were accompanying news of her taking on what used to be Harry's rugby patronages.

I think she'll be a great ambassador (is that the word?) for the sport and, as usual, she looks a model of forty-year-old fitness. She even looks elegant in a track suit.

But the gaping maw? (no offence maybemaw; your maw is a different word).

Callistemon21 Wed 02-Feb-22 20:52:08

It says that I think that the RF think they are different to us and that they have blue blood.

I really don't think anyone believes that, even the RF!

Anyway,most of us have Royal ancestors in our genealogical tree.
Just checked my wrists, my blood is blue!!

Alegrias1 Wed 02-Feb-22 20:56:07

Anyway, most of us have Royal ancestors in our genealogical tree.

I don't, at last not for the eight generations I've been able to trace. Before that, I think its pretty unlikely still; we really were peasants. grin Maybe that's why I think that wearing nice frocks doesn't really amount to "work".

Callistemon21 Wed 02-Feb-22 20:58:03

I don't think she was wearing a nice frock at the rugby.

Pantglas2 Wed 02-Feb-22 21:02:58

Most of my ancestors were farm labourers, so I guess in a way we were peasants

Mine too Alegrias, but I’ve not ever felt inferior to anyone- is it cos I’m Welsh?

Alegrias1 Wed 02-Feb-22 21:03:31

No, nice tracksuit. She's good at lineouts. ?

paddyann54 Wed 02-Feb-22 21:20:25

She wouldn't know a hard days work if it bit her on the nose.I do believe shes a great actress though ,often looks really grumpy when caught by a roaming cameras...BUT she knows to get the lifestyle and the peasants cash she has to toe the line.

Josieann Wed 02-Feb-22 21:31:52

I think this discussion about royal values is as daft as the usual misconception on here that private schools beget a mentality of entitlement in their pupils. Yes, certain members of the RF may think they are different to the rest of us and are superior beings, but from what I see of Catherine, I feel like she constantly recognises how lucky she is, how many privileges she has, and how it is her responsibility to make people feel genuinely better and happier.

Sago Wed 02-Feb-22 21:31:53

Astonishing.

Josieann Wed 02-Feb-22 21:33:06

What is?

Alegrias1 Wed 02-Feb-22 21:39:46

I think this discussion about royal values is as daft as the usual misconception on here that private schools beget a mentality of entitlement in their pupils.

No!! Surely not!! ???

Josieann Wed 02-Feb-22 21:47:53

You miss the point where my comment was leading, Alegrias. Sometimes it is right to concentrate on the qualities of the individual, not on those of the institution. The thread is about Catherine's effort, however we choose to view this.

Alegrias1 Wed 02-Feb-22 22:01:54

Is she a nice lassie? Don't know, never met her.
Is she good at projecting a "nice" image? Definitely.
Does she work hard? Not in the usual sense of the word. She's never had to work a 12 hour shift in Tescos, then go home and feed the kids on a fiver.
Does she have a huge weight of responsibility on her shoulders. No. No. No.
Does she care about people? Quite possibly. She can afford to.
Had she dedicated her life to an institution which I believe to be unfair and anachronistic? Definitely.

Would I do her "job"? Not in a million years, but not for the reason you think.

Callistemon21 Wed 02-Feb-22 22:09:02

You might think you're a peasant and a subject, Paddyann but I know I'm not!

Callistemon21 Wed 02-Feb-22 22:10:38

Does she work hard? Not in the usual sense of the word. She's never had to work a 12 hour shift in Tescos, then go home and feed the kids on a fiver

Are they the criteria for working hard?

If so, I never qualified.

GrannyLaine Wed 02-Feb-22 22:26:31

Me neither Callistemon
We're clearly workshy.
Would I want to put in the huge amount of preparation required beforehand to make an official visit a success, do all the necessary with hair/makeup/clothing whether I felt like it or not, all the time being careful to look engaged and interested? Repeat again the next day? Not to mention the constant presence of journalists and photographers
Now that to me seems like really, really hard work.

Alegrias1 Wed 02-Feb-22 22:28:36

Yes, we've definitely got different ideas of hard work...

Callistemon21 Wed 02-Feb-22 22:30:23

No-one works a 12 hour shift in Tesco.

Actually, GrannyLaine I did work for a while as a shelf stacker at Sainsburys.
No-one cared what I looked like as long as I was clean.

MissAdventure Wed 02-Feb-22 22:33:13

I'd swap some working days with Kate.
I do 12.5 hour shifts.
I can't see her rushing to swap, though.

GrannyLaine Wed 02-Feb-22 22:43:01

Callistemon21

No-one works a 12 hour shift in Tesco.

Actually, GrannyLaine I did work for a while as a shelf stacker at Sainsburys.
No-one cared what I looked like as long as I was clean.

Your post reminded me of the occasional extra overnight shifts my daughter did as a shelf stacker in Sainsburys before she went to university. At the time, I was working 12 hour nights as a Delivery Suite midwife.
Her take home pay was higher than mine.

Oh yes, we've definitely all got different ideas as to what constitutes hard work. And I STILL wouldn't swap with the Duchess.

Galaxy Thu 03-Feb-22 07:58:11

I don't think it's hard work to be honest but it's not a life I would want and the last sort of life I would want for a daughter (I only have sons).
I have done 12 hour and 24 shifts but my life was my own. I increasingly think one of the best arguments for abolishing the RF is what happens to the people within it.

Iam64 Thu 03-Feb-22 08:15:12

Kate has never done the 12 hour shift as a nurse, struggled to pay rent/mortgage/food despite working so hard.
I do wonder though about the emotional impact of Kate’s role. It’s no surprise none of us would swop with her and I wouldn’t want my daughters living Kate’s life.
Always on display, in role for whatever is expected that day. Everyone has a view on what she wears, how she responds to her husband and children in public.

Galaxy Thu 03-Feb-22 08:54:02

And if she puts a foot wrong they will hate her forever.

Sago Thu 03-Feb-22 08:54:29

I am astounded at how this woman is being castigated.
You come across as toff bashing misogynists.
Would working a 12 hour shift in a supermarket make her a better person?
She works hard as a royal and as a mother.
Her behaviour is impeccable.
She was born into a life of privilege, so what!
She has quietly got on with her role as a royal and done lots of great charity work, she is a great ambassador for British fashion and cares deeply for the organisations she supports.
I am really saddened by a lot of the nasty comments,
PaddyAnne your comment in particular.

Galaxy Thu 03-Feb-22 08:57:44

I am afraid the idea of 'behaving impeccably' is something I find sonehow quite misogynistic in itself. Be quiet, behave etc. Look what happens to those who dare to step out of line.

Alegrias1 Thu 03-Feb-22 09:05:12

I read your whole post Sago so that I made sure I'd got the right end of the stick.

This woman wasn't born into a live of privilege, she married well. And I'm afraid I'm not convinced, whatever anyone says, none of them work hard. Except William maybe, when he was flying his helicopters. And Harry, who was an actual, real soldier.

I've never met the woman and I've no idea if she's caring or any of the rest of it. Working a 12 hour shift wouldn't necessarily make her a better person, of course not, but the point was that that would be hard work; having someone else choose your nice frocks for you, do your hair and tell you all about the place you are going to visit today so that you know to say the right thing; that's not hard work.

So nobody's castigating that lady, except perhaps those who think she shouldn't be seen with her mouth open. These are the ones you should be criticising. The ones that think a woman "belongs" to them so much that they can talk about her teeth and her frocks and everything, as if she were their own daughter.