Where to buy quality underwear?

Seriously?????

Yep seriously.

Just change your underwear supplier. I have not encountered this problem.

Why not name the store, or add a link. Is it M&S?

And yes I would also be because let's face it, any talk about pants is hilarious and yes it is petty on its own, but its part of a bigger picture. So perhaps not so funny in the grand scheme of things.

I meant are you really posting about this…
Just buy other knickers

I think the word you want is gussets

Love the word gussets - very Miranda!

Oh Maw ! ?

It’s a brilliant word- with the right emphasis, almost an expletive! ?

Isn't gusset the undercarriage bit?
The gussets are fine. Its the part that goes in front of the public bone area that has all the access material.

Access ??!!! Excess I guess

I suspect that if there are more transwomen buying these pants than women, they will continue to cut them more roomy, and women will have to find other styles that suit them better. That won’t be difficult though, as there will always be plenty of styles to fit women. There are more of us, and always will be, however much the language police rob the word of its meaning.

Realistically though - transwomen need pants, so it’s a bit of a non-issue ?. There is no point in making them look the same as women’s pants on the packaging, however, as that way no-one will know where they are and which style to buy. Ultimately, they will need some sort of indication on the packaging or work done on the branding/marketing to attract transwomen and deter women, or they will all and up being returned.
(And yes, I am aware that there is a high risk that this thread is a wind-up!)

You'll be pleased to know I will no longer be buying my underwear from this particular place?

Doodledog

I suspect that if there are more transwomen buying these pants than women, they will continue to cut them more roomy, and women will have to find other styles that suit them better. That won’t be difficult though, as there will always be plenty of styles to fit women. There are more of us, and always will be, however much the language police rob the word of its meaning.

Realistically though - transwomen need pants, so it’s a bit of a non-issue ?. There is no point in making them look the same as women’s pants on the packaging, however, as that way no-one will know where they are and which style to buy. Ultimately, they will need some sort of indication on the packaging or work done on the branding/marketing to attract transwomen and deter women, or they will all and up being returned.
(And yes, I am aware that there is a high risk that this thread is a wind-up!)

Finally, a discussion!
Even if you don't agree with everything I've said

And it's not a windup.

Lucca

Access ??!!! Excess I guess

Typo. Excess it is.

snowberryZ

You'll be pleased to know I will no longer be buying my underwear from this particular place?

That’s the obvious solution, isn’t it? In the end, you will still have plenty of choice of knicker styles, and transwomen will be able to buy ones to fit them. It’s a nuisance that you had to return the ones you bought, but otherwise no harm done.

Are you sure there was nothing to suggest that they were aimed at TW? It seems a very poor marketing strategy to design for a specific demographic and then make no attempt to let them know the items are available.

I wonder if in future mens underwear will be made with less material, to accommodate transmen. I doubt it somehow

About the shrinking gusset: I’ve been thinking the reverse strangely.
Surely they should be engineered to efficiently catch any drips??‍♀️

Doodlebug, you mean like when they put a V on food packaging to indicate it's suitable for vegans?
goes through bin to check packaging for giant T

I have seen many reviews about women’s knickers on the M&S website written by men, extolling their virtues.
The lacy ones in particular.
It’s been highlighted elsewhere.
It is definitely a thing.

snowberryZ, if you don't like the ones you're buying, buy others. It's a buyers market. If no one buys big gusset knickers, they'll stop making them.

Of course, there is the trend towards making period pants to use instead of sanitary protection. Maybe big gusset pants are a step in this direction?

FannyCornforth

I have seen many reviews about women’s knickers on the M&S website written by men, extolling their virtues.
The lacy ones in particular.
It’s been highlighted elsewhere.
It is definitely a thing.

Obviously some woke idiot designer is pandering to them and making their lacy pants more 'male friendl' More material and more stretchy in the front.

Like I said , they should have their own section.