To think this is odd in view of what’s already been said

I would guess they both told lies.

I don't think anything has changed.
His payment is an admission of guilt, as far as I'm concerned, which is what she wanted.

I think you're right Jaxjacky when it comes to honesty, both are questionable.

If she really wanted him to be seen as being guilty MissA and he is, then why settle out of court.

I don't think he's guilty but just wanted to bring this to a full stop. Now she can go after all the men involved but who aren't high profile enough to be embarrassed into settling.

MissAdventure

I don't think anything has changed.
His payment is an admission of guilt, as far as I'm concerned, which is what she wanted.

Hadn’t thought of it that way. It just seems a surprise after all the media coverage, interviews, etc. It was only a short time ago Andrew was denying any memory of ever having met Giuffre and now, as you say, this seems to be an admission of guilt on some level. I wondered whether some other evidence had come to light that his legal team weren’t too keen on being made public.

I think because she realised she can't compete with his lawyers and all the various means he has used to hold her at bay, to obstruct the case, to hide away, etc, smileless.

He has taken the easy way out. The RF wouldn't have wanted this dragged through the courts with a guilty charge at the end.
Although settling makes him look guilty there is always a shadow of doubt.

MissAdventure

I don't think anything has changed.
His payment is an admission of guilt, as far as I'm concerned, which is what she wanted.

Also his payment is to her charity. I expect she'll be able to access this for reasonable expenses in running the charity; but it's hardly the bonanza that some people were claiming she was after.

What does PA gain by settling ? …..an end to this sad drawn out episode for all concerned…… although I’m probably being optimistic by using the word ‘END ‘

Aveline

I don't think he's guilty but just wanted to bring this to a full stop. Now she can go after all the men involved but who aren't high profile enough to be embarrassed into settling.

He didn’t think through the interview he gave with Sky News and if what you suggest is the case, he didn't think this through either because it implies guilt.

If I was innocent with the very best lawyers at my disposal there is no way I would settle.

None.

In my vast experience of legal processes (meaning I watch a lot of youtube videos, so have none at all! ) civil cases are often the only redress people have, with regards to getting some sort of an admission, when the legal system is against them.

It saves the case overshadowing the Queen’s Jubilee Year.
However VG said she wouldn’t settle - I suspect the famous photo suddenly having been lost, so not available for expert scrutiny, is not unconnected with her sudden willingness to settle. It brings her credibility into question once again.

It is draining & damaging to many others caught up in this , time to settle & move on.
There are only two people who know the absolute details .

VS if your mother was HM you might VS.

If it implies guilt it also implies deception on her part IMO. Why has she settled?

It appears as if one thing that has damaged her case is the disappearance of that photograph that PA's team are no longer able to have examined with regard to its authenticity.

Germanshepherdsmum

It saves the case overshadowing the Queen’s Jubilee Year.
However VG said she wouldn’t settle - I suspect the famous photo suddenly having been lost, so not available for expert scrutiny, is not unconnected with her sudden willingness to settle. It brings her credibility into question once again.

No that is wrong. Windsor commends her bravery and accepts that she is a victim.

The reason for out of court settlement is because he was never going to court.

Why wouldn't she settle?
It's a civil case.
He isnt going to be dragged off to prison.
A lot of families of murder victims settle after the legal process has been found lacking.

I don’t agree wwm, as I have just said to you on the other thread.

I think it means the photo was a fake and she knew that her case wouldn’t stand up in court.

And he knew that even if he could win against her a raft of other undesirable details would be made public.

They are both nasty pieces of work but I suppose you could say they’ve both got what they wanted.

Yes, he "accepts that she is a victim" but not his victim, there's a big difference.

Germanshepherdsmum

VS if your mother was HM you might VS.

I wouldn't behave the way he does in general

Nothing has been proved, nor will it now.

Only in people's minds.
Which was the point, I think.