Assigned female at birth

VioletSky

I don't think I'd be very secure as a woman if an advertising slogan made me feel reduced in any way.

They are free to advertise as they wish, whether they are successful or not is all the feedback they need.

TBH, I was more offended by the idea period blood could be represented by blue water as if red was something to be ashamed of.

Or the thought that we'd all be off rollerblading in white trousers if we just used the right kind of sanitary towel.

That advertising for you, mostly silly

Fair enough, you don't mind being referred to as a bleeder. Makes me wonder why words such as woman and female are so triggering to some, I guess they're not as resilient as you. Which rather suggests any adverts that say smear tests are required by women or females will be equally acceptable, and anyone who takes offence is being silly. Same as breast feeding, pregnant women etc etc.

So what are men = cockers ?

Herefornow, thanks for your advice on what we need to learn. However people with a dsd (intersex is not really the term that is preferred) have begged not to be dragged into this debate, many find the use of their medical condition to prove some sort of point really offensive.

Something tells me this person wasn't assigned female at birth. I wonder how all the women of America feel about this.

I would have thought the reason for inviting someone for a smear is to detect and prevent cervical cancer. The recipient will probably know whether they have a cervix but a simple explanation could be added, eg “cancer of the womb”. The NHS has a challenge to increase uptake of smears and using phrases like “assigned female at birth” is not going to help. Use of jargon in medical/clinical settings is shocking, yet we wonder why people have no understanding of how their body works.

I think for the sake of other female groups we need language to be simple and understandable. I'm not sure assigned female at birth is simple. I don't find it offensive though. I am a bit sick of repeating myself but lots of women in this country struggle with literacy and language needs to be inclusive for them too.

Aveline

Something tells me this person wasn't assigned female at birth. I wonder how all the women of America feel about this.

Why are transwomen nearly always tall?
You very rarely hear of smaller blokes wanting to transition to female.
It's nearly always the hulking big six footers wirh heavy obviously masculine facial features who seem desperate to become women.
Little men would make better looking
more believable feminine looking women.
Tis a mystery.

Anybody know why?

Because you don't notice the other ones. Do you?

Doodledog

In my opinion you are not being at all unreasonable. I don't know about PC going too far, but 'assigned female at birth' it is such a ludicrous phrase that if I got such a letter I would write to the head of my NHS trust and ask for it to be stopped.

Women need smear tests, because they are members of the female sex. Sex is not assigned, it is endemic. It is determined at conception, not at birth.

Could not agree more. How ridiculous.
You really could not make this rubbish up.

I do notice the other ones. It's impossible not to.
I mean this kindly, but women can nearly always tell when someone is trans.
Sometimes something is a bit off. Could be the size of the hands or feet which are big, or lack of a waist or the shelf of the forehead. Or a combination of everything.
There's always something that screams Male. No amount of makeup or hormones hide it.

So I do think that it's mainly tall, large framed men who want to try to be women.
And why is that?

Kindly.

Right. Course you do.

This is why I stay off the trans threads

I am tall with big hands and feet

Not my fault you're reading into it.
I do mean it kindly. But I am not going to lie. People can tell. Its a fact.

pinkprincess

One of my granddaughters, who is in her early twenties has just had a letter rom the NHS inviting her to go for a cervical smear test ''because she was assigned female at birth''
AIBU to suggest this is PC going too far?

If this is the standard letter sent out by the NHS - why don't they invite for a "cervical smear test", based on the simple fact that the invitee has a cervix? I can't see the need to qualify that with any other reason.

JaneJudge

I am tall with big hands and feet

Snap! Me too!
However, even though I have size 7 feet nd largish handsthey are still the hands and feet of a woman. And if you were to see a photo of my bigger than average hands and feet they would still be instantly recognisable as those of a woman. Not a man.
The brain is sophisticated a picking out subtle differences between the sexes.

snowberryZ

Not my fault you're reading into it.
I do mean it kindly. But I am not going to lie. People can tell. Its a fact.

Before my time, but didn't people used to say things like "I mean this kindly, but black people are happier with their own kind". Or "I mean this kindly, but women are better off without the vote, it only upsets them"

"Kindly" my a***.

Oh, and Doodledog - how is sex "endemic"? That's new.

Dickens

pinkprincess

One of my granddaughters, who is in her early twenties has just had a letter rom the NHS inviting her to go for a cervical smear test ''because she was assigned female at birth''
AIBU to suggest this is PC going too far?

If this is the standard letter sent out by the NHS - why don't they invite for a "cervical smear test", based on the simple fact that the invitee has a cervix? I can't see the need to qualify that with any other reason.

Unfortunately a lot of women wont know they have a cervix or what a cervix is.

It’s just another ‘men want it all their way’ effort. If the patriarchy and their fans aren’t happy with something that belongs exclusively to females, they change the female’s nomenclature so it can include men.
If men were not declaring themselves to be women, or women declaring themselves to be men but still needing the benefits of being women, this situation would not arise.

Yes latch onto one particular word and ignore any valid points I've made.
That's mature.

No, I'm arguing with your whole premise. That only big muscular men want to transition. But the ridiculous argument that you are just being kind is so egregiously self-deluding that I am highlighting it.

No you are not being unreasonable pinkprincess it's ridiculous. How did your GD feel about being referred too as someone who was "assigned female at birth"?

I didn't say only masculine men I said mainly. There's a difference. You're twisting g my words.
Maybe you should take your own advice and stay out if these discussions?
You seen to take things way too personally.

This is why I stay off the trans threads

Your words?

Oh yes.

I made an exception.

I won't be taking your counsel to stay out of discussions though. I've found a new cause. Although I'm sure you meant it kindly.