Parents deliberately winding up children

No you aren’t. I would have been pretty hacked off. Good for the man who got him to stop. Some parents have no idea how aggravating their children are to others.

In this case it was the father who was annoying. A small child will respond with squeals and shrieks to that behaviour.
We usually take some paper and coloured pencils and draw with our 3 year old GS so other people aren't inconvenienced.
I do wonder why some people don't seem to be aware of others around them and just do what they like.

My DD will do this with my DGS. Right before bedtime. I get as wound up as him.

So a Father interacting with his child is wrong, maybe it was a little bit too loud, but I would rather see parent child interaction than all sat with their heads in individual devices.

We stopped going out for a while with a couple who had a toddler like this. It was really embarrassing as it was quite an upmarket venue and we were known to the manageress having been and taken our GC on numerous occasions. They provided crayons and games but non were played with. The father sat with a huge smile on his face as said toddler wandered from table to table with sticky fingers and reached up to other people's plates encouraged by whoops of delight from both parents.
We hurriedly asked for the bill and left when it was obvious that it had happened before and considered normal by the parents and encouraged by the fathers whoops.
It does make you reaccess the adults doing it when you know them personally.

Appalling behaviour from the father. I would have been the customer to tell him to pipe down. A restaurant where people go to enjoy a pleasant meal and conversation is not the place to indulge in performance parenting.

No you are not being unreasonable Vintagejazz.

There are many ways a parent can interact with their child without eliciting screams and very loud laughter.

GrannyGravy13

So a Father interacting with his child is wrong, maybe it was a little bit too loud, but I would rather see parent child interaction than all sat with their heads in individual devices.

Why does it have to be either or? I see many parents interacting with their children in restaurants without encouraging such a racket it ruins other customers meals.

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I remember being in a very posh restaurant in France with our two young children. I kept them entertained by telling them the story of the cave in Lascaux - most of it made up. When the food appeared the people at the next table begged me to go on as they wanted to know how it finished!

Vintagejazz

GrannyGravy13

So a Father interacting with his child is wrong, maybe it was a little bit too loud, but I would rather see parent child interaction than all sat with their heads in individual devices.

Why does it have to be either or? I see many parents interacting with their children in restaurants without encouraging such a racket it ruins other customers meals.

If the child was too noisy due to their Father playing with the and when it was pointed out to the Father the situation was resolved, all was fine.

And it is often the dads who get little children all hyped up just before bedtime, then wonder why they are too excited to settle down and go to sleep.

As for the restaurant incident, when will people realise the whole world doesn’t revolve around their child?

I also think there are loads of ways for parents to interact without all the shrieking. But I do think the father was probably just enjoying hearing his child laugh, without realising the noise levels. He's probably used to doing it at home where he doesn't annoy anyone.

I hate it when children are crying, especially very young ones, and all the mother can do is yell at them. The child is already upset, and sometimes tired and hungry, what is the point of yelling at them to upset them further???

The father should have had more awareness of his surroundings GG. With any luck, he'll have learned a valuable lesson.

And dogs.... ❤️ me ❤️ my dog seems to be par for the course in Urmston town centre. Yesterday afternoon we wandered over to our favourite bar. 3 dogs in there, quiet enough so fair play. One owner though picked his little dog up and sat it on the chair next to him. Oh no! ? dog bums on seats, not nice. ‘Paws on the floor’ ought to be the mantra in public places. Then another couple with a dog came in, so 4 in total now and it was barking at the other dogs so much. “It’s like Battersea dog’s home in here” said Himself. We like dogs (we’ve had 3 over the years) but come on people, have some consideration!

We went out for lunch yesterday with daughter SIL and our just 2 years old granddaughter. We had books, stickers and colouring books to keep her amused in her high chair. But she is so talkative, she said hello lady or hello man to everyone around her and then wanted to chat. Asking what they were eating and drinking or telling them all about her. We find it extremely amusing but are aware others don’t. You cant tell a 2 year old to be quiet and trying to distract her doesn’t always work. But we don’t see it as bad behaviour but hoping she learns to be a bit quieter as she gets older.

Just a thought if the child was young it was a lockdown baby (as are our youngest two GC) and they are not as used to going out to eat or socialising as children born pre-Covid.

Re dogs, I just avoid any food place that welcomes them.

Not that I go out to eat much.

GrannyGravy13

Just a thought if the child was young it was a lockdown baby (as are our youngest two GC) and they are not as used to going out to eat or socialising as children born pre-Covid.

A lockdown dad also, I suppose.

Urmstongran as someone who is extremely allergic to dogs, and it’s getting more severe with age I would have had to leave the bar.

Definitely paws on the floor never should dogs or any other animal be allowed on seating in a public place.

Calendargirl

GrannyGravy13

Just a thought if the child was young it was a lockdown baby (as are our youngest two GC) and they are not as used to going out to eat or socialising as children born pre-Covid.

A lockdown dad also, I suppose.

Well we all lockdown citizens at some point over the last two years.

He calmed down when it was pointed out, so I really cannot see what the problem is, if he had continued it would be something to complain about.

I find tables of noisy intoxicated adults far more offensive than the laughter of children.

This wasn’t an eating place Calendargirl but I do agree with you on that. It’s off putting to watch dog owners feed their pets morsels of food from their plates. Ugh!

Children should be taught there is a time and a place for being noisy or energetic, and public places is not one of them. When surrounded by other people they should be kept calm and encouraged to sit quietly. Restaurants, public transport, waiting rooms etc. When they are in their garden or the park or at home they can make as much noise as they like.
Sadly this doesn't happen.

Urmstongran

This wasn’t an eating place Calendargirl but I do agree with you on that. It’s off putting to watch dog owners feed their pets morsels of food from their plates. Ugh!

In our neck of the woods, dogs can order their own bowls of food in lots of eating establishments! ?