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So called jokes about rape!

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TerriBull Mon 01-Aug-22 12:19:14

AIBU to think that jokes about rape and killing women whatever the context are completely unacceptable and to women not funny at all.

Frankie Boyle, addressed a controversial stand up routine at the Latitude Festival recently in which he joked about raping and murdering tv presenter Holly Willoughby, he argued that the so called "joke" came within a wider context.

This is the context: in describing a game about killing and shagging people he included HW, he said this "I'd obviously kill and rape her afterwards, I'm only joking I'd rape her first"

AIBU, given the all too recent Sarah Everard case and the umpteen other women who will have been raped and kill by men his remarks are reprehensible. How is he getting away with this?

Callistemon21 Wed 03-Aug-22 15:41:26

Looks like your turn in the barrel, Terribull

Never mind, most of us who've been on here for years know you, have read your sensible posts and understand that you asked a valid question.

No, most women and indeed men too would agree that YANBU.

Dickens Wed 03-Aug-22 16:12:58

TerriBull

He knows some of what he says, is highly personal and offensive he came back twice to take another shot at RA so clearly he doesn't give a shiny shit about other people's feelings.

I didn't know that he'd taken even more swipes at RA.

After the original 'joke' and the one he made about Katie Price's son, you have to wonder at his mental 'make-up'. I know he's a comedian and needs to get laughs to earn a living - apart from whatever else he does - but what motivates him to get his laughs from belittling other people? Is he a misanthrope maybe?

I've heard other comedians say edgy things, but also with the ability to mock themselves a little - I don't know if FB does this... I stopped listening to him. Actually, I find him depressing.

TerriBull Wed 03-Aug-22 16:13:56

No dogged investigation from me Vover, your favoured asides which stick in my mind for all sorts of reasons, have been used very recently in fact on this thread.

Such as "grow up" that was to me and someone else, a tad strange patronising a comment to make adult to adult, if I'm allowed to say that, probably not, Such a riposte conjures up a scenario of you, the fantasy teacher, tediously having to deal with a bunch of querulous 10 year olds who perpetually interrupt the lesson with nonsense.

However, I do like your "why is everyone picking on me?" so retro, so 13 year old at their bratish worst, hope you kick the trash bin after you've slumped off to your room, slamming the door behind you, because you need a few actions to go with that to get right into character.

Anyway you never did proffer an opinion as to whether FB's comments regarding Rebecca Addlington Double Gold Medal winner are okay.

In case you weren't aware or had forgotten they are as follows:

She looks looks pretty weird she looks like someone who is looking at themselves in the back of the spoon.

She may have an unfair advantage because she has a dolphin's face.

She has a really attractive boyfriend, he was like a male model, so from that I have deduced that RA is very dirty.

But hey, apparently, we should say anything negative about his looks because that's just misandry hmm

volver Wed 03-Aug-22 16:19:18

^your favoured asides which stick in my mindyou Terribull

tediously having to deal with a bunch of querulous 10 year olds who perpetually interrupt the lesson with nonsense.

Aye, that's what its like.

TerriBull Wed 03-Aug-22 16:19:30

should shouldn't

Yes Dickens he was thoroughly vile about Rebecca who actually achieved something she and her country can be proud of.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 03-Aug-22 16:27:19

I am amazed that there appear to be a defence of FB, who has a history of misogynistic jokes, to which we can now add rape/murder to a household name (Holly Willoughby).

I have an all round sense of humour, like a dirty joke not offended by swearing, not particularly PC, but I will repeat my previous posts rape and murder of a named person has no place in comedy however it is dressed up …

Galaxy Wed 03-Aug-22 16:28:13

Have you read the article by Victoria Smith on FB Terri? Its
interesting. Emperors New Clothes and all that. A lot if it I agreed with.

Bellanonna Wed 03-Aug-22 16:49:47

I think you’ll find any defence on here is singularly small
GrannyGravy. Thank goodness.

TerriBull Wed 03-Aug-22 17:00:25

Galaxy

Have you read the article by Victoria Smith on FB Terri? Its
interesting. Emperors New Clothes and all that. A lot if it I agreed with.

I hadn't, but I have just Googled and read it, likewise I agree with pretty much what she has said, and Owen Jones is a friend, why aren't I surprised about that hmm

TerriBull Wed 03-Aug-22 17:01:16

Thanks Galaxy hadn't hear of her, but interesting.

TerriBull Wed 03-Aug-22 17:01:30

heard not hear

volver Wed 03-Aug-22 17:20:22

Jeez, his career's really slumped, hasn't it?

volver Wed 03-Aug-22 17:24:06

volver

^your favoured asides which stick in my mindyou Terribull

tediously having to deal with a bunch of querulous 10 year olds who perpetually interrupt the lesson with nonsense.

Aye, that's what its like.

That makes no sense at all. Sorry.

volver Wed 03-Aug-22 17:27:55

TerriBull

Galaxy

Have you read the article by Victoria Smith on FB Terri? Its
interesting. Emperors New Clothes and all that. A lot if it I agreed with.

I hadn't, but I have just Googled and read it, likewise I agree with pretty much what she has said, and Owen Jones is a friend, why aren't I surprised about that hmm

Opening line of the article in question.

I’m perfectly prepared to believe that comedian Frankie Boyle did not tell a joke about raping a well-known daytime TV presenter. Or rather, I’m prepared to believe that contrary to a recent report in the Daily Mail, he did not deliver a set of gags about “killing and shagging people”, including Holly Willoughby.

??

TerriBull Wed 03-Aug-22 17:31:38

Well you've just said "Aye that's what it's like" now you're contradicting yourself saying it makes no sense at all. You work it out!

Poster boy for incels! probably his biggest fans.

Badger baiting and cock fighting are popular sad what brings in the crowds ain't always great hmm

TerriBull Wed 03-Aug-22 17:33:48

Hey Volver can we have your feedback on his comments about Rebecca, we could be forgiven for thinking you're being evasive on that.

volver Wed 03-Aug-22 17:35:48

OK, the first bit was meant to say:

your favoured asides which stick in my mind Glad to have such an impact on you Terribull

Second bit, which I managed to post properly, still holds.

Poster boy for incels? What is actually wrong with you?

volver Wed 03-Aug-22 17:37:10

TerriBull

Hey Volver can we have your feedback on his comments about Rebecca, we could be forgiven for thinking you're being evasive on that.

No, don't think so, this not being a Police State and all. You'll just have to guess. I'm sure you'll enjoy that.

Callistemon21 Wed 03-Aug-22 17:43:26

volver

^your favoured asides which stick in my mindyou Terribull

tediously having to deal with a bunch of querulous 10 year olds who perpetually interrupt the lesson with nonsense.

Aye, that's what its like.

So why on earth are you on GN at all? ?

volver Wed 03-Aug-22 17:44:51

Would you rather I wasn't here?

TerriBull Wed 03-Aug-22 17:48:34

volver

Would you rather I wasn't here?

Callistemon doesn't have to answer that as you so rightly say it's not a Police state. You're just have to guess I'm sure you'll enjoy that!

TerriBull Wed 03-Aug-22 17:50:36

__You're-- I do beg your pardon should be "you'll"

TerriBull Wed 03-Aug-22 17:52:12

I suppose we could keep this bollocks discourse up all evening [yawn]

tickingbird Wed 03-Aug-22 17:53:40

volver

Jeez, his career's really slumped, hasn't it?

It is the Edinburgh Fringe. Hardly a nationwide tour.

volver Wed 03-Aug-22 17:57:04

The Edinburgh Fringe?

I know. Who pays any attention to that?