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AIBU to think that a parent should be able to deal with a 10 year old threatening her with a hammer and garden shears?

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M0nica Mon 27-Nov-23 17:36:59

even if she had consumed 'cannabis edibles.

When my two, a boy and a girl, were ten, I was bigger stronger and more intelligent than either of them, and a child holding a hammer and garden shears, which will be relatively large compared with them is at a distinct disadvantage.

I would have thought one quick movement could have resolved the issue or alternatively a carefully relaxing conversation.

Instead this mother called the police. I will make no comment on what followed. It is the first half of the incident that boggles me.

maddyone Thu 30-Nov-23 17:23:15

many children just don’t deserve the lives they are born into

No, they don’t. And I don’t pretend to know the answer. However I’m pleased the police officer has been cleared. It can’t be an easy job, especially when called out to a child brandishing a weapon.

BlueBelle Fri 01-Dec-23 06:20:42

I have just heard the actual incident played on the radio
It was horrendous the child was crying ‘ow ow ow’
He tasered her TWICE within seconds of entering the house he is screaming and shouting at the child as soon as entering apparently she was standing still just holding the shears not brandishing them as a weapon
He has been cleared of course but that was not how I would expect a policeman to act
As he entered the house and saw the child holding the shears standing on the stairs (doing nothing) he immediately shouted well screamed ‘put that down’ and used his taser TWICE, afterwards he called paramedics to remove the two barbs from the child.

Very very wrong in my mind he should not be in charge of a taser because he’s obviously got no means of using a more suitable approach

welbeck Fri 01-Dec-23 12:31:40

heard the child's father, who rang in to LBC this morning.
seems there is a back story, and it is quite complex.
the father has not discussed what happened with the mother.
toxicology tests done at the hospital shewed no ingestion of cannabis; the father said that report was part of the gaslighting that the child was subjected to.
sounds like he holds not only the police responsible for what happened.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 01-Dec-23 13:13:11

Is he an absent father? Did he accept any share of the blame?

welbeck Fri 01-Dec-23 17:59:36

certainly sounds like the parents are separated, else how could they have not discussed the issue.
he said the child, or house, was known to police, as the child had previously reported that someone had tried to strangle her older sister.
the implication is obvious.
also the allegation that the mother had been struck by the hammer, he said how come there was no mark of injury when she opened the door to police.
why did the police rush in, screaming at the child, who was retreating up the stairs.
and if she had committed offences, why was she not charged.
at the hosp the police demanded her phone, and its pin number.
he said this was dubious legally, as she had no access to legal advice.
she told her father later that she complied with this demand because she was terrified that she would be tasered again.
he did not mention blame in regard to himself, as far as i heard.

OldFrill Fri 01-Dec-23 18:02:13

I watched the recording. I find nothing wrong with the police officer's actions.

BlueBelle Fri 01-Dec-23 18:26:27

Well I totally disagree OldFrill the policeman was totally out of control, he entered screaming and shouting the child started to RETREAT in fear and was tasered within seconds.
No explanations, no effort to talk her down, just screaming at her it’s horrendous Good grief, it’s awful

pascal30 Fri 01-Dec-23 19:19:02

BlueBelle

Well I totally disagree OldFrill the policeman was totally out of control, he entered screaming and shouting the child started to RETREAT in fear and was tasered within seconds.
No explanations, no effort to talk her down, just screaming at her it’s horrendous Good grief, it’s awful

completely agree Bluebelle.. he tasered in 8 seconds.

OldFrill Fri 01-Dec-23 20:18:13

You are entitled to disagree with me. I suspect you've lead far more sheltered lives than l have. The police officer was exonerated twice, quite rightly.

pascal30 Fri 01-Dec-23 20:44:59

OldFrill

You are entitled to disagree with me. I suspect you've lead far more sheltered lives than l have. The police officer was exonerated twice, quite rightly.

And there you would be wrong Oldfrill.. I worked in a job which quite often required de-escalation procedures with adults and we never resorted to tasers or I might add, became injured by the person we were with..

BlueBelle Fri 01-Dec-23 21:53:23

Oh dear Oldfrill how wrong are you? I have led about as far from a sheltered life as you can imagine
Very judgemental of you You have no idea !!

OldFrill Fri 01-Dec-23 22:07:29

Pascal30
BlueBelle
You were not in the police force though? Apologies if I am incorrect
As the police officer was exonerated, twice, yet you continue to pass your own judgements, kindly do not accuse me of judging. The poor guy has suffered enough. The juvenile? Probably the best thing that's happened to her.

Allsorts Tue 05-Dec-23 07:42:35

You don't know all the facts, so cant judge anyone by your exoerience.