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For not wanting to contact my brother

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Smileless2012 Fri 19-Dec-25 18:39:58

This is going to be rather long but I would be so grateful if you could bare with me, and read it to the end.

About 7 years ago my brother estranged me after I contacted Adult Social Services because of the appalling conditions my mother was living in.

He'd moved in with her, despite my advising her against it because he's a hoarder and I knew as he was no longer working that he'd sponge off her financially.

We'd moved out of the village where mum was living but even before then, I hadn't seen her for sometime because the house was in such a state, he wouldn't let me in. Mum was agoraphobic and hadn't left the house for several years.

So about 7.5 years ago, one of mum's neighbours 'phoned me because mum had actually left the house and gone to her because she didn't know where my brother was. I went to see her and was horrified at the filthy and cluttered conditions she was living in.

My once beautiful mum was a shadow of her former self, almost unrecognisable TBH.

There was no heating and no running hot water. I can't go into the state of her or the house because it's still too upsetting for me to think about it.

I 'phoned him. He was out with friends and furious that I'd entered the house. I told him I was going to contact A.S.S. because I couldn't bare to think of mum living in such terrible conditions. I knew if I did so that would be the end of our relationship but it was a price I was prepared to pay to try and help my mum.

In 2020, my dear cousin 'phoned me to tell me he'd been in touch with her and wanted her to tell me that mum had died in hospital and there was no money to pay for a funeral so unless we were prepared to do so, he would have to go to social services.

A week later a friend of his 'phoned me and during the conversation told me that he'd told my brother that he should be passing on the birthday, mothers day and Christmas cards I was sending her.

I could only assume that he hadn't been doing so and mum must have thought that I'd forgotten about her and didn't care.

We of course arranged her funeral which was a very small affair due to Covid restrictions. The funeral director was lovely as I was almost apologising for how mum might look, baring in mind what a terrible state she was in the last time I saw her.

After they'd taken care of her, she 'phoned and asked if I wanted to see her because she looked lovely, and she thought it would be a better memory for me. I was really anxious but with Mr. S.'s support I went to see her and was so pleased I did because she did look lovely; she was my mum again.

Needless to say my brother didn't ask about the funeral and I didn't volunteer any information.

Today I've received a message from my dear cousin saying that he's been in touch with her and asked her to pass on his email address and telephone number, as it being 'the time of year' he would like to make contact.

Neither has changed and nor has our email address or Mr. S.'s. mobile number so if he'd wanted too, he could have made contact without going through my cousin. I believe he's done this to put the onus on me.

We moved again last year so doesn't know where we are living now and I'll be messaging my cousin to tell her not to tell him our address because TBH, the thought of having any contact with him makes me feel physically sick.

Feeling as I do right now, I could cope if I wasn't worried about feeling guilty if I don't contact him.

I'm a regular poster on the estrangement forum but thought if I posted this here, more GN's would see it,

Thank you for reading.

Oreo Fri 19-Dec-25 18:54:15

Sounds an awful experience and your poor Mum! Did you never manage to get into the house to see her?Did social services actually help her or not?
It’s your choice whether to see or never see your brother and only you can decide.Will he try and sponge off you?

Shel1951 Fri 19-Dec-25 18:58:55

After all you have said my first thought was what's he after ?
And are you prepared to take on his problems

imaround Fri 19-Dec-25 19:00:47

I understand completely how you feel. I have my own problems with my sister after my previously estranged mother died. For me, it felt like another knife wound from my very toxic family. Not saying yours is toxic, of course, but mine definitely was.

You owe him nothing and you are right to keep your space in my opinion. This man caused your mother hardship, to say the least.

I am ambivalent about forgiveness right now because I am still processing the betrayal from the person who I thought would never hurt me, but I know someday I need to forgive all of them for my sake.

You know this already, but you need to do what is best for you. If that means keeping him cut off, so be it.

imaround Fri 19-Dec-25 19:15:16

You did the right thing for your mom Smileless. I just wanted to say that.

Coolgran65 Fri 19-Dec-25 19:21:57

My first thought was to accept contact with your brother and see what he has to say. This would remove any guilt you may have about not doing so.
But be prepared to end the conversation whenever you wish, without any feeelings of guilt. A short contact with him may well remind you why you do not want contact.

Whatever you choose to do it is bound to be stressful but a short contact may be sufficient for you to know that you gave him a chance and make your decision from that. He may be wanting something or he may just wish to say hello. As said by Shell951 he could be looking for you to solve his problems. Whatever you decide I hope you go forward with a clear conscience and no guilt.

I haven't put my thoughts very clearly and hope you get my drift.

Fallingstar Fri 19-Dec-25 19:23:18

You don’t owe your brother anything after the way he behaved towards your mother and you Smileless, and am so sorry this happened to you, but please don’t dwell on it, as you say your brother could have contacted you if he wanted to.
Also even if your cards were not passed on to your mum I believe she would know how much you loved her, mums do, and that would have been a comfort to her.
Xxx

Lathyrus3 Fri 19-Dec-25 19:28:12

I don’t think you need to feel guilty at all, but if it is going to make you feel bad and destroy your (hard won) peace, then my suggestion is that you simply send an email to the address you have been given restating your own email address.

No greeting or sign off, just the email address he already knows and then the ball is back in his court to contact you.

But if his reasons for getting in touch are anything other than genuine regret and wanting some forgiveness, I think you have good reason to leave him in the past and there is absolutely no need for you to feel guilty about that in any way.

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User138562 Fri 19-Dec-25 19:33:25

In my opinion, the guilt pales in comparison to the peace that comes from keeping toxic people out of your life. I'm willing to bet he wants something.

You don't have to take responsibility for how HE feels about a decision you make to protect yourself. That's on him to manage.

Grandmabatty Fri 19-Dec-25 19:34:03

I am very low contact with my brother for a similar situation. He is, I think, mentally disturbed in some way and has always been difficult. My advice would be to think carefully about the possible ramifications of giving him your address or phone number and how you might deal with that. You owe him nothing, regardless of him wanting to get in touch.

eddiecat78 Fri 19-Dec-25 19:41:21

My advice would be to not contact him - especially not at this time of year which is already very difficult for you and Mr S.
And you have nothing to feel guilty about especially as your poor Mum is no longer alive to be affected by your decision.
Don't allow this man to stir up so many distressing memories. Put him out of your mind.

fancythat Fri 19-Dec-25 19:50:33

Neither has changed and nor has our email address or Mr. S.'s. mobile number so if he'd wanted too, he could have made contact without going through my cousin. I believe he's done this to put the onus on me.

he might have done it that way to see how the land lies, so to speak.

Yes I would make contact.
Maybe meetsomewhere neutral. For a coffee?
And see how things go.

Allira Fri 19-Dec-25 20:06:04

Neither has changed and nor has our email address or Mr. S.'s. mobile number

He sounds as if he has real problems.

Neither has changed and nor has our email address or Mr. S.'s. mobile number
Do not give him your new address. You could meet him somewhere neutral if you wished, but take Mr S with you.

I'm not being nosey, but who inherited the house? It could have been rented, of course. Alarm bills are ringing here. What does he want?

Iam64 Fri 19-Dec-25 20:13:11

User138562

In my opinion, the guilt pales in comparison to the peace that comes from keeping toxic people out of your life. I'm willing to bet he wants something.

You don't have to take responsibility for how HE feels about a decision you make to protect yourself. That's on him to manage.

I agree with User138562 on this Smilesless.
Look after yiurself

LOUISA1523 Fri 19-Dec-25 21:24:46

No....stay away from him

Shelflife Fri 19-Dec-25 21:30:22

I think you are well advised to keep away from him.

wintersday Fri 19-Dec-25 21:40:21

I wouldn't give him the time of day - you don't need someone in your life, who treated your Mum like that. Take care.

Wyllow3 Fri 19-Dec-25 21:40:59

Iam64

User138562

In my opinion, the guilt pales in comparison to the peace that comes from keeping toxic people out of your life. I'm willing to bet he wants something.

You don't have to take responsibility for how HE feels about a decision you make to protect yourself. That's on him to manage.

I agree with User138562 on this Smilesless.
Look after yiurself

I agree too.

It's so awful for you, Smileless. Your own brother.

But he does have your email. You have not cut him off totally.

If he really has changed, then he can email you. Like others, I suspect he is unlikely to change, but it is in his hands, isnt it?

( I do have some relevant experience. My co-ercive ex husband has been estranged from his family by his brother, and my sadness was that the brother felt he has to also cut me out from my ex MiL and she died without me being able to say good bye or go to the funeral. It IS so awfully sad, but unless there is a real change)

you have to take care of yourself.

butterandjam Fri 19-Dec-25 22:36:13

I'm betting it;s financial. The leech wants money from his sister, because he's run out of Mother's.

He's beeing living on your Mother's state pension and now it's gone; if it's a rented house he's not been paying the rent and getting kicked out; or the council's chasing him for Ctax.

Vito Fri 19-Dec-25 22:58:26

Oh smileless what a heartbreaking tale. Personally I wouldn't have anything to do with him, I would have nothing but contempt and loathing. However that's me, and if like others have suggested it would stop you feeling guilty, just send him your email again. Then forget it. Sending hugs and warm wishes flowers

Smileless2012 Fri 19-Dec-25 23:28:27

Thank you all for responding, I really appreciate it.

The last time I saw mum was the last time I was in the house Oreo. To begin with, SS's were keeping me informed but I think they stopped because of my brother.

They'd told me they were trying to see if mum had capacity to make her own decisions but it was difficult because he was either interrupting or refusing to leave the room.

They did tell me that they managed to get the heating and hot water sorted, but that was the last I heard from them.

Thank you imaround, it was the only thing I could think of doing and thank you too Fallingstar.

Once I'd got over the initial shock I felt as many of you have that he wants something and Mr. S. agrees. He was always hopeless with money and TBH I'm surprised he's managed this long.

He wont know we've moved to downsize from a large 4 bedroom house and maybe thinks if he's going to have to give up our mum's house which he was the sole beneficiary of, there'd be room for him to come to us but even if we were still there, that wouldn't be an option.

My initial gut reaction was 'no' and now I've had time to calm down that remains my decision.

We've tried helping him over the years with financial and emotional support but it never got us or him anywhere. We've had our own problems to contend with as we've been estranged from our youngest son and only GC for 13 years and TBH, it's taken every ounce of our strength to re build our lives so I just don't have it in me to reopen the wounds inflicted by my brother.

Writing the OP was cathartic and reading all your responses has enabled me to realise that I can make the decision not to have any contact, without feeling guilty.

If he does contact me directly which I don't think he will, at least I'll be prepared and able to tell him that I don't want to see him and want to be left alone.

Again, thank you.

Grandmafrench Fri 19-Dec-25 23:45:30

Are you actually worried that you might feel guilty? Please don't think like that. You have absolutely nothing to feel guilty about.

Your Brother's appalling behaviour and neglect of your late Mum, his refusal to allow you access to your Mum because of his treating her home like a doss house, his not working, his not earning, his causing her distress with his worrying lifestyle, then his anger because you did the right thing to try to make a safe place again for your Mother to live; his sneaking messages to those who might contact you - when he decided that he needed your financial help! The list is endless and although you really struggled to deal with what had happened to your Mother - he clearly never cared or showed any interest in your feelings or hers!

You dealt with it and fortunately you were able to see your Mum again looking like your Mum, which must have given you some solace at the end of her life. IMO you've already done more than enough and that you should now - having moved and moved on in your life (which has had other major sadness to cope with) - you should continue to ensure that he is involved in no part of it. Whatever for? Just because you're a good person and just because he's decided that "it's the time of year" so it might be worth trying to take advantage of your kindness?

Only my opinion, of course, but I wouldn't want my hard-won peace and calm threatened by just a trouble-maker, and someone who could never hold up his head and explain to you why he did all that he did.

Sometimes one can give too many chances and so end up being the one who suffers - again. Wishing you strength and resolve to deal with this and not open up old and distressing experiences which you certainly do not need.

A very Happy Christmas to you and yours, and your dear pooches, and some fun and good things to look forward to in the New Year. x

Grandmafrench Fri 19-Dec-25 23:48:31

Sorry, Smileless, your post overtook mine but it's good to see that the responses you received have helped you to make a decision!

Iam64 Sat 20-Dec-25 08:05:01

Its reassuring to see the responses here united in recognising there are some relatives it’s better to be estranged from, than repeatedly trying to make the impossible ok

Rocketstop2 Sat 20-Dec-25 08:08:09

Keep away from him, he will drain you, and using 'The time of year' to make contact is emotional blackmail hence him using the cousin as a go between too.
If you do feel guilty though you shouldn't, just tell the cousin to tell him you wish him a peaceful Christmas but that's as far as you want to go.