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For not wanting to contact my brother

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Smileless2012 Fri 19-Dec-25 18:39:58

This is going to be rather long but I would be so grateful if you could bare with me, and read it to the end.

About 7 years ago my brother estranged me after I contacted Adult Social Services because of the appalling conditions my mother was living in.

He'd moved in with her, despite my advising her against it because he's a hoarder and I knew as he was no longer working that he'd sponge off her financially.

We'd moved out of the village where mum was living but even before then, I hadn't seen her for sometime because the house was in such a state, he wouldn't let me in. Mum was agoraphobic and hadn't left the house for several years.

So about 7.5 years ago, one of mum's neighbours 'phoned me because mum had actually left the house and gone to her because she didn't know where my brother was. I went to see her and was horrified at the filthy and cluttered conditions she was living in.

My once beautiful mum was a shadow of her former self, almost unrecognisable TBH.

There was no heating and no running hot water. I can't go into the state of her or the house because it's still too upsetting for me to think about it.

I 'phoned him. He was out with friends and furious that I'd entered the house. I told him I was going to contact A.S.S. because I couldn't bare to think of mum living in such terrible conditions. I knew if I did so that would be the end of our relationship but it was a price I was prepared to pay to try and help my mum.

In 2020, my dear cousin 'phoned me to tell me he'd been in touch with her and wanted her to tell me that mum had died in hospital and there was no money to pay for a funeral so unless we were prepared to do so, he would have to go to social services.

A week later a friend of his 'phoned me and during the conversation told me that he'd told my brother that he should be passing on the birthday, mothers day and Christmas cards I was sending her.

I could only assume that he hadn't been doing so and mum must have thought that I'd forgotten about her and didn't care.

We of course arranged her funeral which was a very small affair due to Covid restrictions. The funeral director was lovely as I was almost apologising for how mum might look, baring in mind what a terrible state she was in the last time I saw her.

After they'd taken care of her, she 'phoned and asked if I wanted to see her because she looked lovely, and she thought it would be a better memory for me. I was really anxious but with Mr. S.'s support I went to see her and was so pleased I did because she did look lovely; she was my mum again.

Needless to say my brother didn't ask about the funeral and I didn't volunteer any information.

Today I've received a message from my dear cousin saying that he's been in touch with her and asked her to pass on his email address and telephone number, as it being 'the time of year' he would like to make contact.

Neither has changed and nor has our email address or Mr. S.'s. mobile number so if he'd wanted too, he could have made contact without going through my cousin. I believe he's done this to put the onus on me.

We moved again last year so doesn't know where we are living now and I'll be messaging my cousin to tell her not to tell him our address because TBH, the thought of having any contact with him makes me feel physically sick.

Feeling as I do right now, I could cope if I wasn't worried about feeling guilty if I don't contact him.

I'm a regular poster on the estrangement forum but thought if I posted this here, more GN's would see it,

Thank you for reading.

Smileless2012 Sun 21-Dec-25 12:10:35

If there had been I would have used them. Despite knowing my concerns and seeing the conditions my mum was living in, even adult SS's couldn't help me see her.

ViceVersa Sun 21-Dec-25 12:16:21

While it's a decision that ultimately only you can make, my feeling is that you owe him absolutely nothing and I'd be wondering what he's after. I think you are absolutely doing the right thing by closing the door and putting your own wellbeing and needs first, although I know that's not an easy thing to do.
Also, I just want to say that you did the right thing for your mum too. flowers

Smileless2012 Sun 21-Dec-25 12:17:54

Thank you ViceVersa.

25Avalon Sun 21-Dec-25 13:08:16

Smileless there is no point in sending an email if you don’t want contact. To do so would probably only encourage him. In contacting a third party he was testing the water. It doesn’t sound like he is contrite at all. You know what he is like.After this time you have found your peace so you are wise to keep it that way.

Smileless2012 Sun 21-Dec-25 13:31:49

Yes Avalon that's we think too.

Davida1968 Sun 21-Dec-25 13:48:34

Smileless, I'm with the other GNs here. I advise continuing to cut all contact with your brother, alongside "blocking" him from any phone/messaging services which you use. As 25Avalon says: "you have found your peace". Please look after yourself and keep it that way.

Lathyrus3 Sun 21-Dec-25 13:56:44

I agree too.

I only suggested the email because Smileless said she was worried about feeling guilty.

A sop to Cerebus……

InRainbows Sun 21-Dec-25 15:37:26

As we go through life we meet all sorts of people we do not get along with. Some that have hurt us and some that we just don't connect with.

I am a firm believer that with the one life we have we should limit our exposure to people or situations that make us unhappy. Family is in no way excluded by that, if anything less so given their closeness to you making exposure even more uncomfortable and damaging.

In short, you are not being unreasonable. It is never unreasonable to walk away from a relationship that doesn't make you happy and it is your brother's job to manage how he handles that emotionally and ensure he is not doing things that are technically manipulative or harassing like using third parties to contact you.

Wishing you a happy holiday free from guilt over this.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 21-Dec-25 18:48:53

As Mary Angelou advised us “When people show you who they are, believe them.”

Flutterby345 Sun 21-Dec-25 19:43:53

Lathyrus3

I don’t think you need to feel guilty at all, but if it is going to make you feel bad and destroy your (hard won) peace, then my suggestion is that you simply send an email to the address you have been given restating your own email address.

No greeting or sign off, just the email address he already knows and then the ball is back in his court to contact you.

But if his reasons for getting in touch are anything other than genuine regret and wanting some forgiveness, I think you have good reason to leave him in the past and there is absolutely no need for you to feel guilty about that in any way.

💐

I think this is is what I would do. I am not totally estranged from my brother I just have to walk a fine line between not feeling guilty to totally breaking with him. Not easy. I do so understand how you feel.

Iam64 Sun 21-Dec-25 20:00:50

FriedGreenTomatoes2

As Mary Angelou advised us “When people show you who they are, believe them.”

FGM, the Maya Angelou quote is important to me. I used it this week, with a lovely young woman, now 40, I’ve loved since meeting her aged 11. She’s struggling with relationship issues - which is the root of Smilessles OP.
We are a group of older women, we’ve been lucky to live long lives, let’s not waste our energy, our love on people who won’t appreciate and may exploit it

theworriedwell Sun 21-Dec-25 20:14:08

CariadAgain

Re blood ties - and that comment had me googling wondering if Hitler had any brothers or sisters. Apparently he did have a sister - though, of course, we have no idea whether she'd rejected him or accepted him. She might have been a normal person - and, if she was, then she would have surely rejected him.

Point being - even monsters have siblings sometimes.

Off to google Netanyahu to see if he did....

I think, and I might not be remembering correctly, that he had a brother called Yoni (I think) he died rescuing hostages on a hijacked plane I Entebbe. He died a hero, I've often wondered if Netanyahu has some sort of issue that he will never live up to his heroic big brother.