Will it really happen?

Let Hell break loose. Bring it on I say. Better a dose of quick pain rather than a prolonged dull ache of misery.

've signed the petition. Anyone wishing to give me an ear-bashing can find me eating cake in the kitchen.

sorry...that was meant to be I've.

No ear bashing from my soup. Just a big hug.

Well, so have I soop. I'll join you in the kitchen for some cake later. B****r the ear bashing

Aww! Come on, let's get signing. I'm in the mood ...

There's an old Chinese curse---"May you live in interesting times." I reckon that's what we're living in now!

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Gracesgran Yay!

I see that there has been mention of the Migrants in Calais moving over to Dover - there is a feeling in Calais that the Le Touquet agreement between UK and France should be looked at again and maybe repealed or whatever they do to these things. Then there would be no check by UK border force at Calais and I don't think if you are leaving a country your passport is always checked. The Maire of Calais has before said that she was thinking of buying them all a ticket to cross to Dover and at 35€ each that must work out cheaper than the money it is costing Calais to deal with the mess and problems that the camps cause - the Maire of Dunkirk would probably chip in to the fund too - then there would be one last clear up of the camps.

On light note:

Before it happened I thought Brexit was a cheap morning cereal.

Now I think it's an inferior morning serial..........

I've signed the petition too. But I don't think it will do any good, sadly!

Welshwife your passport is always checked. As I posted up thread, at all the French ports apart from Calais it is checked by the ferry company and then French border control. In Calais, it is French, then UK border control and you drive straight off in Dover.
The only place that they used not to check it was Dover on the way out, but that has changed now.
I know of a French lady who went on her honeymoon alone because her husbands carte d'identité was out of date and BrittanyFerries would not let him board.

That's what happens now, Mamie. I heard someone from Calais saying you wanted out, so leave. We do not have an English border here any more.
The French border control will leave it to the British in Dover. They will not want to keep the asylum seekers there.
The Calais residents will probably chip in, give them some food and a good shower before they accompany them to the ferries.

It was in the papers yesterday that they are talking about not stopping the asylum seekers going through the tunnel any more.

Mamie if the UK controls go at Calais it would be easy for the French to not check passports - and I would not put it past them to have a strike! They would of course need to check passports again at Dover - but what happens to foot passengers?
Also it is relatively easy to get onto a freight train as they have fairly open sides and they may well stop checking so many lorries if the number of customs/ CRS/ Gendarmes etc were cut.
We have only used the Caen crossing for a few years but that ferry area does not seem as big as at Calais- lots of coach loads of foot passengers though.

Jalima - the sort of shakeup that might result in a "looser trade alliance" sounds just the ticket and what many people have hoped for for a long time.

Should do okay for border control jobs in the UK, though.
Just hope they are not given to G4S. Although, if they are G4S are so hopeless, the asylum seekers will be okay.

Currently the UK border is in France e.g Calais, Eurostar Paris and the French border is in UK, e.g. Dover, Eurostar Waterloo.
So you are likely to have to produce your passport when leaving France.
If the French give us 6 months notice this arrangement is suspended then all you will need is a ticket and if you don't have a passport when you set foot on UK soil you just have to say "I want to claim asylum" The fold on the continent in camps have not yet claimed asylum because they are not in the country of their choice. This is often because they don't speak the language there or they have friends/relatives and somewhere to stay in Germany, UK etc
Its similar between Wales and Ireland but less formal. You just give your ticket at this end and wave your passport at the other. If you are in a vehicle they are not checked at all.

Welshwife I do about 8 return crossings a year from Caen (my local port), Dieppe and Calais. Foot passenger controls are very strict; your luggage is x-rayed in Caen. I have been at Newhaven when people turned up without passports and have been told the ferry companies face a huge fine if they let people on without them.
Of course some refugees will have passports but border control in Dover would have to pick that up.

I don't get why the new arrangements (actually the old arrangements) would be any different from Caen, Dieppe, Roscoff etc. The border is not in France for these ports, it is in the UK.

Please please can someone reassure me that all immigrants are NOT going to be sent back to where they came from? MY DP is an Ethiopian Muslim and the things I have heard people saying makes me believe that this is a real possibility. There seems to be so much hatred against them at the moment,it scares me. He has been here nearly 20 years,we have been together nearly 4 years and the thought of him having to leave the place he now regards as his home terrifies me.

I really like that AlieOxon ! ?

That's preBrexit, Mamie.
People voted for having control over all our borders in the UK.
The French will want the asylum seekers to come here to claim asylum. They are only being held over in Calais because we are part of the EU.