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Why are old people so selfish?

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AllYoungPeople Wed 20-Jul-16 01:38:21

You make us pay for education, while your pensions and NHS spending increase. You made houses unaffordable.

Now you take us out of the EU and destroy the future WE wanted for ourselves.

Thanks. Thanks so much.

Jalima Wed 20-Jul-16 20:11:47

and before the OP picks me up on my use of the plural when I referred to *the minority^
Some collectives, like "number" and "majority," can be singular or plural depending on the article used: eg A minority of people are original thinkers

I do not include the OP in the minority of original thinkers btw.

Cherrytree59 Wed 20-Jul-16 20:18:03

absent. Rickety bridge is I think spot on!

Perhaps HQ could gives a suitable emoji.
I can think of a fewgrin

Cherrytree59 Wed 20-Jul-16 20:19:41

Oops 'give us a suitable emoji'

GandTea Wed 20-Jul-16 20:45:10

I am also a pre boomer.

Jalima Wed 20-Jul-16 20:46:53

absent grin

Diddy1 Wed 20-Jul-16 21:51:34

AYP hold on there, you cant generalise as we dont generalise about all young people. Think again all the things WE have sacrificed and our parents before us, ever heard of WW1 and WW2, if not sunny boy, dont voice your opinions as you have done here, try being mature, and make the most of, like the rest of us will have to do, leaving the EU.Now I think it is past your bed time, read this tomorrow!

Bobbysgirl19 Wed 20-Jul-16 22:30:19

I actually think this poster is just trying to wind people up and might not even be a young person at all.

jevive73 Wed 20-Jul-16 22:45:28

My husband and I,both over 60, voted remain. All of the leavers we knew were 20-40. We are in London and our area voted remain

DaphneBroon Wed 20-Jul-16 22:49:43

I really think nobody here, however they voted needs to justify themselves
OP set out to annoy, irritate and stir.
Why take any notice other than the notice you might take of a particularly annoying moth flying round your bedroom at night.
#splatdon'tagonise.

Elegran Wed 20-Jul-16 22:57:19

This thread will wither away soon, if no-one gives it any more encouragement.

aquagran Wed 20-Jul-16 23:27:51

Don't rise to this!

rubylady Thu 21-Jul-16 03:40:02

I actually agree with him, I am selfish. I deserve it. I have thought of other people all my life, looking after everyone else since I was 11 years old, so yes, call me selfish all you want, I am busy doing my own thing, for me.

With regard to putting house prices up, then we started with a tiny house that we could afford and not a five bedroom detached, like some want these days. I didn't vote to leave or stay, I was too ill to care to be honest at the time. Some things will always be out of our control anyway but then the young have to learn these things yet.

Don't go to university then, get an apprenticeship, be paid for learning, this is more than one way to get a career. Join the army or other services. Use your noggin!

And I am too young to have a pension, a baby on here at 51 years young still (until Saturday grin).

Stop blaming everyone else for your life, get out there and do something about it. And I don't mean just going out looking for Pokémon. Get a job, pay your way, listen to the older generations, you might learn something.

Bellanonna Thu 21-Jul-16 08:13:42

He's not real ruby ! He's just a rather inadequate person who gets off on watching grans getting angry. Don't fall for it and hopefully he'll just fade away and take his mischief somewhere else.

Bluecat Thu 21-Jul-16 12:46:02

Well, it's a kid...Being provocative is what kids do. They like the attention. No point arguing with them.

I once wasted a whole afternoon arguing with my nephew (then in his very early 20s) about the impact of the 1960s. He thought it was all over-rated and meant nothing. I tried to get him to understand how different his world was, because of social changes that developed in the 60s, such as the impact of feminism, the decriminalisation of homosexuality, the changing attitudes to racism, divorce, illegitimacy...He couldn't see it and I couldn't get through to him, so I gave up. No use arguing with kids. Just give them time to grow up.

FarNorth Thu 21-Jul-16 13:38:22

No sign of AllYoungPeople coming back to chat to us. Maybe they've all gone off to get a life.

Daisyanswerdo Thu 21-Jul-16 13:39:43

Born before W W II. Went without a lot of things in my childhood.

Now live on a state pension.

Voted to remain.

KateG Fri 22-Jul-16 13:10:26

Just wondering who the WE are that you refer to. Presumably remainers rather than younger voters. If it is the latter,not all young voters wanted to remain. two of my three children voted to leave.
They both teach in inner city schools, as did I in another world. Thus, they were able to see that the educational prospects of poor white boys has deteriorated even further since mass immigration from Eastern Europe. Teaching assistants that once helped children with literary skills are now employed to teach English to the children from Poland etc, whose parents can't be bothered to teach them even the rudiments of the language before depositing them in schools.
You may not bother about this particular demographic, but we do. Far more than I do your desire to work abroad; an option not denied to you, if you bother to acquire necessary skills and learn the language.

rubylady Fri 22-Jul-16 13:16:03

Bella yes, I know that, I think I was just sounding out loud as I get this from my lovely darling son who blames me personally for everything wrong with the World today. I am so sure that at 19 years old I was more mature than that and took responsibility for my own actions by then.

Wouldn't parenting be wonderful if you could iron out mistakes that you made and start over from the beginning? I certainly would have learnt the word "NO" more and not given them all my time only to be told now that I have never cared. Kids eh?

path20 Fri 22-Jul-16 13:18:31

I am sick and tired of being called selfish and ignorant because I used my democratic right to vote. I voted to join the EU and I have voted to leave. If you don't like the result then that's unfortunate.
There may be tough times ahead but all will come right in the end.We all have to work together to achieve this. Think positive! Onwards and upwards.

rubylady Fri 22-Jul-16 13:19:41

Did I blame my parents for the mines closing down in the '80's when Maggie was in power? No, of course not. I was 19 years old in 1983 when all this was going on. And stealing the milk.

suzied Fri 22-Jul-16 13:22:44

I feel for anyone working in overstretched schools who are being asked to do more whilst being given less, this isn't the fault of Polish children is it? Why are just white boys affected? What about poor white girls? Or black boys? Black girls? Or poor Asian children ? What about them.? Shouldn't they all be being supported?

Elrel Fri 22-Jul-16 14:25:17

Kate - of the 3 Polish teenage boys I taught (in a group of recently arrived young people from 3 continents) 2 had spoken and written English better than most UK teenagers. The other boy's English was average for UK. They were also courteous and respectful. Polish parents are traditionally keen for their children to work hard and make the most of education.

Elrel Fri 22-Jul-16 14:30:36

TAs are now expected to teach and test vowel digraphs and other irrelevancies. They used to support children in actually reading books for pleasure and information.
OP - for what it's worth I'm 76 and like almost all the older people I know voted remain, together with just under half the population at large.

Elrel Fri 22-Jul-16 14:33:30

Kate - are your children who voted leave happy at the result? How do they see the future now?

Tegan Fri 22-Jul-16 14:55:53

Isn't this the sort of thing that central government had promised extra finance for?