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Opelessgran15 Thu 28-Jul-16 10:16:37

I suggested to a very recently widowed friend that when she felt up to it, did she fancy going on one of the ' bargain break' coach hols to Scotland for a few days? I had already mentioned to my partner, who was quite happy about this. it's something I have always fancied doing, and and I thought it would be an ideal opportunity for my friend to try, thinking perhaps next spring. This was one night last week, we had a chat about it. This week, she tells me she has booked one of these trips with another friend,all booked, paid for, animals in kennels etc, for September. I did say ( nicely, I know she is vulnerable at the moment, and I have been widowed,so I understand the emotional upset) that I thought it had been a plan for she and I and she said " well I want to go with you too sometime" . I feel a bit hurt to be honest. The other friend has done this before, I assume on hearing of potential plans ,seizes on them, and as she lives alone puts them quickly into action, whereas I have to budget a bit and plan ahead cos of GC duties etc. I feel I want to say something to my widowed friend, i.e how has this come about so suddenly, why is she going with other pal after my suggestion?It also seems to me she is not sure about going anyway, and the other person is very frosty towards others at times, and has often put a damper on trips away, whereas myself and my friend usually have a laugh if things go wrong or someone gets in our nerves a bit. What do I do?do I fret inwardly, leave it, say something? It's nagging at me that it feels unfair, which is selfish considering my friend has just lost her husband, thoughts and comments pleeease!

WilmaKnickersfit Wed 03-Aug-16 11:21:34

opeless I'm glad things are sorted now, it will be a weight off your mind. smile

trisher Wed 03-Aug-16 11:17:49

Wouldn't it be good if we could look at the things our friends do when they aren't with us and think "I hope they are happy and enjoying themselves", instead of thinking that they have in some way rejected us by not doing whatever it is with us. Try to be happy for your friend Op and plan another trip together. Maybe all 3 of you could do something.

elfies Wed 03-Aug-16 11:07:54

I go on holiday with a widowed friend, but she goes with other friends too , and I feel she 'shares herself out' so as not to be a burden on any one friend (she couldn't be a burden if she tried and holidays with her are a joy )
She's lovely, thoughtful and kind hearted .
Hopefully your friend is trying hard too, and just hasn't realised how much she's hurt you. Perhaps she couldn't remember who suggested it .

harrigran Wed 03-Aug-16 09:53:48

I'm with jingl on this subject.

Opelessgran15 Wed 03-Aug-16 08:17:55

Just to let you all know the conclusion to the story. My friend was in a much better frame of mind when I saw her this week. She brought the subject of the hastily arranged trip up. It seems she felt bamboozled into this coach trip as the second friend had turned up with all the paperwork for the hol, got her to ring the kennels and said "we can do this, it's what you need" several times! First friend said she said she knew she wasn't ready, it didn't feel right,she felt very vulnerable that day, but agreed as it was the easier option that day because of how she felt. First friend was able to have a good chat with me this week, said booking it had worried her, but hadn't felt able to express her true feelings when she saw me as she had had a very bad few days, which I could feel at the time and didn't pursue it further than I did that day. We both agreed that coach trips really weren't the second friends 'thing' normally, and had never mentioned Scotland previously, though of course,no reason why she shouldn't, it's a very beautiful area.It occurred to me later, that I had mentioned this possible trip to two or three people I was chatting to at first friends husband's funeral when we were talking how we we could help widowed friend, and second friend was sat on the table, though talking to others at the time( I am making it clear she wasn't excluded in any way, it was a big table with lots of people on it.)Was a seed sewn then? Don't know, it doesn't matter now, the air has been cleared, but I naturally have concerns about first friend going away if she isn't ready, but trying to allay her fears and have a bit of a joke about it, with the option to cancel if she really can't face it, though hasn't mentioned this to second friend yet.Trip is another few weeks away yet, so second friend may be long sighted and it may be exactly the right thing. Meanwhile, first friend and I are planning a trip next spring, lots of options, Scotland just one. Thanks all gransnetters once again, whether or not I agree with your comments on not, they are always interesting, or helpful, or make me feel I am a bit over sensitive, though not always!

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 29-Jul-16 09:37:53

Just let it go. hmm

Gononsuch Fri 29-Jul-16 08:32:51

Hi, Opelessgran15, there is a doctrine that says "Couples leave single girls alone".

I really can't see why you are so bothered, is it the rejection or the thought that she preferred her company to yours.

Granny2016 Fri 29-Jul-16 08:25:57

I don,t understand anyone who has posted that they would have been hurt/annoyed in the same situation.
It wouldn,t occur to me to feel anything ,other than hoping that her trip my help her cope with her grief,

Elrel Thu 28-Jul-16 21:04:20

I need to edit! Please ignore the 5 words after the first full stop!

Elrel Thu 28-Jul-16 21:02:12

I would have initially felt hurt. Your other friend may have However Scotland is a big place with many different interesting and beautiful possibilities for a visit. Try to move on so you don't miss out on having a lovely trip in the Spring with your friend to anticipate and plan.
Your idea may have prompted your friend to look beyond her grief and, while not at all belittling it, decide to embrace life.
A Grans Netter I met was prompted by her terminally ill husband to travel abroad and pursue an interest after his life was over and not feel guilty about it. He appreciated how much she was (willingly) missing out on during his illness, she appreciated his thinking of her future without him. What a wonderful relationship they had.
I've just seen your second post! Have a lovely trip, you're clearly a kind person and a good frien! ?

Willow500 Thu 28-Jul-16 19:52:29

grannylyn65 sadly not hmm

Opelessgran15 Thu 28-Jul-16 18:59:42

PS Thankyou for the flowers Linco56.

Opelessgran15 Thu 28-Jul-16 18:54:02

Thanks for all,your comments as usual, I felt much comforted by the majority views, but take on board everyone's comments. I think it was It was more the enthusiasm with which my friend greeted the idea ( we are quite close and see each other very regularly) and said it had never occurred to her to do a hol like that, and would look forward to us going when she felt better ( she has been agonising over several ideas, not just holidays), so we left it that we would have a look at them over the next few weeks and decide. It was the way she slipped it into the conversation that it had been booked when I next saw her, and yes FarNorth and f77ms , quite right she can take hols with whom she chooses and when she likes as I do and will. I was the fact that the other friend has never expressed any interest in either Scotland or coach hols, in fact from what I remember rather looked down her nose at them.Perhaps my suggestion was mentioned in passing and it went from there. Hey ho ,I have decided I will suggest somewhere else when she is in a less vulnerable frame of mind.....anyone else fancy a girly trip to Scotland?!!

FarNorth Thu 28-Jul-16 16:08:51

I don't understand all the hurt feelings being talked about here. It's not as if the holiday has been booked for the same time you suggested.
If your friend wants to have a break fairly soon and has someone to go with her, where's the problem?
The last thing she needs is to have to deal with hurt feelings of a miffed friend.

f77ms Thu 28-Jul-16 15:13:07

Maybe I am odd but I would not have been offended by this in the slightest . She perhaps wants to go away before next year and with another single person . It was nice of you to offer to take her with you and your H but it may have been a bit awkward for her . Perhaps she needs a `girly ` few days away . I really don`t know what the problem is about her going away , she is an adult and can do what she likes . If it offends you then don`t offer again .

KatyK Thu 28-Jul-16 14:58:18

Sounds as though the other friend has pushed herself forward. Maybe your friend felt pushed into a corner. I have mentioned on here before how I felt sorry for a recently widowed friend and said if she fancied going out for a drink and a chat sometime to call me. She did and on one of these occasions she said to me 'Since J died, I have been socialising with people I would never of dreamt of going out with before, no offence'
SOME TAKEN smile My DH says 'I wonder if she would have done it for you - I think not' I put it down to the state she was in at the time, DH isn't so sure!

vallaza Thu 28-Jul-16 14:52:29

Well I would have made a mental note not to ask her again. I would have booked the holiday as planned, and gone by myself

grannylyn65 Thu 28-Jul-16 14:40:57

Willow, hope you are included in OH trip!!

Linsco56 Thu 28-Jul-16 14:29:43

I can understand your feeling upset, but I would leave it and say nothing. As you've said, she is vulnerable at this time and I think she will need the support and company of all her friends. Possibly she needed a break before next Spring and this other friend offered.

She has said she wants to go with you too sometime, so perhaps you and she can firm up the arrangements for next March when she returns.

Try not to see this as a rebuff. Friendships are rarely exclusive and she will probably be feeling lonely and in need of all the company and friendship she can get.

Console yourself with the fact they'll be eaten by midgies in September....March is far better! Chin up and smile. You sound like a good friend whose feelings have been a little bruised. Have these flowers

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 28-Jul-16 13:37:43

I said that and yes, I am making a judgement about the friend, but that's where the conflicting feelings come in. You feel what you feel, but you can still have some understanding of why the friend did what she did. You don't have to deny your own feelings, just think about the other person too. Hope this makes sense. At the end of the day, because of the friend's circumstances you have to accept the situation and wait to see how things go on.

Anniebach Thu 28-Jul-16 13:18:45

Wilma, some see it as a slap in the face, this does seem s judgement of the friend

Bellanonna Thu 28-Jul-16 13:08:43

I was just wondering. When you first broached it with her, had she already booked the September holiday but just didn't mention it at the time? You were talking about next spring, after all. Or did she just mention the idea to her other friend after talking to you, who thought, good idea, and went off and booked it? I can't see too much to be hurt about. The September holiday is not far off and she feels she needs the break. I'm sure she is grateful to have the other option with you next Spring. I wouldn't feel too upset. Just be pleased for her that she's trying to get her life back, and then both of you can talk about exactly where you will go together early next year. I can understand how you feel, but I can see how she wants to move on too.

Willow500 Thu 28-Jul-16 13:05:00

I would feel a bit miffed about it too - I can't help feeling miffed my OH decided on the spur of the moment to jet off to the other side of the world for 2 weeks holiday without really discussing it with me! However in your friend's situation I think it's probable that she's just mentioned it to this other friend who has perhaps thought it was a good idea to take her away from her surroundings for a break. You've spoken to her about it so I would just wish her a great holiday and say that when she gets back the pair of you can plan another break later in the year and carry on as normal.

Granny2016 Thu 28-Jul-16 13:02:45

Was the other friend perhaps a widow too?.
She is recently widowed so decision making may be quite difficult for her.
I would also suggest that she needs something to help her now while we have some sunshine.
Wish her a nice time,she will likely have a lonely Xmas and will be more than happy to have a spring trip to look forward to.

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 28-Jul-16 13:00:46

Annie yes, maybe that's what happened. Nobody is saying they know what the friend was thinking. The OP is just sharing her feelings and asking if she's being unreasonable. She has acknowledged her friend's loss, she's not disregarded it.