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Deni1963 Fri 01-Dec-17 22:36:22

My husband left end of September. Over the past months we have seen each other and talked. This has dwindled to practically nothing, he is staying at his parents, but has disappeared for nights. We hard,y talk and his parents don’t respond to any texts I send. I’ve asked him numerous times to move the rest of his possession so ( there is a lot), but he avoids it by saying he is wanting the marriage to work despite actions being the opposite.
Ive had enough. Can I pack his stuff and put it out? The house is mine and he is no longer contributing. Where do I stand?

BlueBelle Tue 05-Dec-17 06:06:48

I don’t think you can just dump your husbands goods as attractive as it sounds I m also not sure about breaking his locks even if it’s your house the fact he’s lived with you there for six years gives him rights My house was mine as I inherited it and we had only been married and lived in it a year although been living together elsewhere for six but when he had an affair and left me the solicitor told me he was entitled to half the house I managed to find a lesser way of parting in the end but it’s not as straightforward as it seems
If you live in a small house with daughter and family there too could he have a reason for leaving ? Just wondering?

Fernbern you can’t legally lock a husband or wife out so you can’t just change the locks I m pretty sure

Grandma2213 Tue 05-Dec-17 03:22:12

Denil963 my sympathies are with you. You have a lot of thinking to do. As others have said, get proper legal advice which is often free at the beginning when you can get basic advice. I let my own situation run on for years and now regret it as my ex got more than I would have expected possible or moral when we finally divorced.

Envious Tue 05-Dec-17 02:20:07

Are you physically able to deal with packing up and moving his things? I know you don’t want to be seeing his things but I wouldn’t put myself out and possibly ache for days after. angry

Starlady Tue 05-Dec-17 00:54:27

If I really didn't want him there anymore, I would go ahead and bring his stuff to his parents. But those who say seek legal advice are probably right. Maybe even just go for one free visit to get the lay of the land.

Starlady Tue 05-Dec-17 00:52:03

"I have my daughter, partner and 18 month grand daughter here ( that's his main issue) saving for a deposit on a house."

Ok, so maybe that's why he's not moving his things out so fast, he's thinking he'll come back when they're gone. I'm sure they're lovely, and you have every right to have them there since it's your house. But that doesn't change the fact that he's not happy about it.

Do they not get along with him or does he just feel crowded?

I'm suspicious of his not being at his parents a lot though, and I'm sure you are, too. I know it looks like he's seeing somebody. But maybe he just doesn't enjoy spending every night with them, being a grown man and all.

I would pack his things up to get them out of the way. But I wouldn't deliver them to his parents so fast. First think, do you want to try to rekindle things when your dd and family move out? Then maybe you need to hang onto his things for a while. If not, then this is about a lot more than your dd and family staying there.

If the main issue is your family, is there a deadline for them to move out? That might ease the situation, imo.

Franbern Mon 04-Dec-17 10:36:22

As adviced by Barmeyoldbat - do get the house locks changed. One of my daughters came home from holiday a few years back to discover her ex-partner had entered her house (he had never had anything to do with this property), and removed all sorts of articles which he tried to claim were his. As he had used the front door key it was not in any way breaking and entering.
Although many CAB advisers are volunteers, they all receive quite extensive training and do have qualified solicitors on hand with whom they consult if they are unsure. No need to be at all concerned about using them.

Deni1963 Mon 04-Dec-17 10:32:25

I have my daughter, partner and 18 month grand daughter here ( that's his main issue) saving for a deposit on a house. I can put his stuff in the shed - locksmith will charge £50 to change lock.
He left in September really? I went to Portugal with his mum to clear sold house there, and he stayed with his dad. He moved his office and didn't move back. He doesn't want the kids here any longer but he has also been missing for days and doesn't get in touch. Then he says he wants the marriage.

Barmeyoldbat Mon 04-Dec-17 02:35:58

Force open the shed door, chuck all his stuff in there, put a padlock on it and wait. Has he a key to house? If so get the locks changed. Also have you informed the Council that only one person is living at your address so you can apply for a reduction in Council Tax.

meandashy Sun 03-Dec-17 20:22:12

So he left you and you did not ask him to leave? I think that maybe be an important factor when you see a lawyer. Try and make an appointment as soon as you can.
I would be wary of storing his stuff anywhere it may get damaged/damp/stolen as that could bite you on the bum!
It must be awful if you just want him out once and for all & he's playing silly beggars.
If he is coming to the house again ask a friend or family member to be around for that. Good luck ?

1974cookie Sun 03-Dec-17 17:52:49

Definitely get some legal advice. He says that he wants the marriage to work, but from what you say, he is not making much, or indeed any effort which I find odd. Is he hoping to keep his options open in case his own do not work out, and then he has somewhere to live ?
You say that you have had enough, the house is yours, so bite the bullet and get his departure finalised so that you can live your own life in peace. In fact, make this your New Year resolution and stick with it Denil. ??

Deni1963 Sun 03-Dec-17 17:12:26

We've been married 6 years together 11. I'm 54 and be is 52.
I don't have a spare room. Our converted shed was used as his office. I don't have the key although I can get a locksmith. I think there must be someone else as he has been missing all weekend from his parents and ignoring my messages.
I have via text told him he needs to move his belongings by the 9th. And that was 2 weeks notice. Shall I put the stuff in the shed?

Synonymous Sun 03-Dec-17 16:50:58

Do get professional advice from a lawyer, the first appointment is generally a freebie. Be very careful as it could come back to bite you with huge financial implications if you get it wrong.

margrete Sun 03-Dec-17 15:58:45

Citizens Advice are not professional. They are - mainly - volunteers! I used to volunteer for them, and this was one of the misconceptions that came up very often.

You may get very helpful advice from them, from the website they refer to, but for professional advice go to a professional. A family solicitor.

TellNo1Ok Sun 03-Dec-17 15:08:43

Phone Citizens Advice immediately and book an appointment with one of their specialists ....

That's who you need to talk to for free professional advice ... and us for support of course...

foxie Sun 03-Dec-17 14:52:24

You have answered your own question. Now is the time for an ultimatum. Tell him that unless he moves all his stuff out within the next 14 day then you will arrange for it to be collected and taken to the tip. He has no interests in the property which is in your name and is just using it as a convenience.

tigger Sun 03-Dec-17 13:47:09

A friend in a similar position, packed up his stuff, hired a van and driver to deliver to his new address.

Luckygirl Sun 03-Dec-17 13:35:19

Do you have a garage you can bung it all in while you go through all the excellent advice above?

grandtanteJE65 Sun 03-Dec-17 13:28:12

Get legal advice - if you can't afford a solicitor then go through CAB. It depends where you are in the world whether you can legally dispose of another person's goods and chattels even after giving warning in writing, or not.

You may be entitled to do as some of the others suggest, but I suspect it depends on whether you are in England, Scotland or N. Ireland, if you even are in the UK.

Here in Denmark, it would definitely be illegal to throw something out that belonged to either a spouse who had moved out, or a lodger irrespective of how many times you had asked them to come and collect their things.

NameChange2016 Sun 03-Dec-17 13:23:33

A sibling of mine has the same issue except their soon to be ex spouse is in prison. Their soon to be ex in laws live abroad.

Any suggestions?

I have said put the stuff in storage and get the in laws to pay.

jenpax Sun 03-Dec-17 12:17:44

You will find that your husband will have basic occupiers rights as a minimum so reasonable notice would have to be given HOWEVER he may also have a beneficial interest in the house if for example he contributed to building work or mortgage in the past and he may apply for a charge on the house to reflect this. Also he could possibly apply for an occupation order if you locked him out,so do get legal advice many solicitors will offer a free half hour appointment for family law

Rocknroll5me Sun 03-Dec-17 11:56:42

tell him a date when it will be put out. and mean it. At least he will do something. Its bootstrap time. Its an emotional effort as well as a physical one for him, people will get away with what they can get away with. It is not fair on you and cowardly of him. Show him you are made of sterner stuff.

sarahellenwhitney Sun 03-Dec-17 11:41:13

Denil 963
Citizens Advice is free Make an appointment, at once.
In the mean time pack ALL his possessions and store them in your property until you have obtained professional advice.If he wants to collect then let him do so. Make sure you have someone with you for when and if he decides to come round.

Fennel Sun 03-Dec-17 11:25:18

GoldenAge wrote:
"The first thing is to decide what you want ".
That's what I was going to say - don't do anything hasty, that you might regret later.
Although you do say "I've had enough".
Do you have any good friends who know you both? If so I would talk it over with them.
It's a big decision you have to make.

GoldenAge Sun 03-Dec-17 11:03:49

Denil963 - you don't say how old you/hubby are but I guess from the fact that he has returned to parents, you are not in your 60s and you have a good life left yourself. You also don't say whether you want the marriage to work, although he says he does. The first thing is to decide what you want - if you want a divorce then take steps to end the relationship formally. The CAB will help in writing the letter, and all you have to do is to inform him that he needs to remove his belongings from your premises within the period you decide, although you have to give him 14 days notice. I would ensure that you send the letter by registered post so you have evidence that he has received it should you ever need that in the future. I don't know how long you have been married, whether he is work, but he may have a claim on the house even though it is yours (unless you had a pre-nup). Money may be tight but usually you can get a one-hour's consultation with a divorce solicitor for free and this would be better than the CAB because you could explore any such implications. Good luck.

GrannyAnnie2010 Sun 03-Dec-17 10:51:00

Pack everything up and drop it off at his parents'. Don't get into any dialogue. The worst that can happen is that he has a legal right to move back - in which case he'll have to organise that himself, and you can establish some ground rules. Solicitors cost money. Let him pay a solicitor to write to you to let him back in. Use your money to move him out.