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Apricity Mon 11-Dec-17 10:00:32

My grandfather migrated to Australia as a very small child with his family in the early 1900s. He came from Stockport near Manchester. The men in his family were felthatters for many generations and the unmarried women worked in the mills. My grandfather was badly injured in WW2 and died when I was 9.
Some of my few memories of him are words. He called me "snooks" and the term "spiflicate" meaning to chastise someone have come down the family. Are these local or regional words? I would love to hear from GNers from those areas.

Nonnie Mon 11-Dec-17 10:10:24

No idea but I do know that different parts of the country have words which mean nothing to people from other areas.

My cousin and I have discussions about crumpets and pikelets. She says a pikelet is the fat thing and I say it is thin like a Scotch pancake. She doesn't recognise the word crumpet at all. My FiL used to go to the Barley Mow, pronounced like cow and wouldn't have it that it was anything to do with mowing barley.

When DH and I got engaged I was asked "where are you holding it up at". Can anyone tell me where we were at the time?

Greyduster Mon 11-Dec-17 10:22:08

Oddly enough, I was talking to DH about this the other day when I was going out to buy some ground cinnamon - a spice - to go in a cake. I told him that when I was growing up, the word ‘spice’ was used to denote sweets. I remember my father saying he had bought me ‘some spice’ on the way home from work, and it seemed to be widely used in that context in our area. I have never heard it so used since. I remember the word spiflicate, also from my childhood.

Squiffy Mon 11-Dec-17 10:38:49

I remember spiflicate, too. I lived in the South East, so perhaps it's universal. Pikelets in the local shops were/are the thin ones! My SiL used to cut through the twittern, which I think is a Sussex word, but she lived in Surrey. Words evidently travel!

Jalima1108 Mon 11-Dec-17 10:48:06

I remember spiflicate too but I'm not from Manchester.

Gagagran Mon 11-Dec-17 10:50:29

We also called sweets "spice" in the West Riding when I was a child Gd. Maybe it's a Yorkshire thing? We also used "spiflicate".

Crumpets were the fat squashy ones and pikelets the larger, thin ones.

What about ginnels, allies, snickets and entries? Presume "twittern" is another such?

hildajenniJ Mon 11-Dec-17 10:52:13

My pet name for grandchildren, and pets is snooky or snookums. Perhaps they are universally used terms.

Nonnie Mon 11-Dec-17 11:00:36

Never heard spiflicate.

Spice is something very different now and nothing to do with cooking!

Squiffy Mon 11-Dec-17 11:49:42

Gg Yes, a twittern was a little alleyway/path used as a short cut.

Greyduster Mon 11-Dec-17 13:44:03

Nonnie?? hmm

Elegran Mon 11-Dec-17 14:08:01

*Squiffy" Was twittern pronounced twitnin' ? That is how my grandparents said it - Sussex born and bred.

Squiffy Mon 11-Dec-17 14:54:01

Elegran From what I can recall, my SiL pronounced it as it’s spelt, but she was a Surrey girl, so perhaps that’s why.

BBbevan Mon 11-Dec-17 15:03:15

When I was little plimsolls were called daps, the cupboard under the stairs the catch and if you did something silly you were two. Welsh words but used in an English Grandma's house

BBbevan Mon 11-Dec-17 15:03:56

The cwtch. I just hate predictive text

sunseeker Mon 11-Dec-17 15:07:54

Bristol has, I think some words and phrases not heard anywhere else. For instance "gurt" meaning very. It is often used in the phrase "gurt lush" meaning very nice. When leaving a bus Bristolians say "thanks drive". Snow doesn't settle in Bristol it "pitches". Bristolians also add an "l" onto the end of words so a girl named Norma would be called Normal. The original name for Bristol was Bristow but it is thought that the citizens habit of putting an l on the end of words gradually changed it to Bristol. Pure Bristolian is almost unintelligible to anyone not brought up in the city. Some years ago I was visiting my brother in Australia and we started speaking in broad Bristolian which baffled his children!

sunseeker Mon 11-Dec-17 15:09:10

BBevan yes plimsolls were (still are to me) daps!

Nonnie Mon 11-Dec-17 15:43:35

I think it was daps in Brum as well.

Sorry GreyDbut I really had never heard of it before today. I have moved around a lot but DH insists I live in my own little world so that might be why!

Greyduster Mon 11-Dec-17 16:07:40

It was the reference to spice that made me wonder if I was missing something? 😏 Probably better not to elaborate - I’ve led a very sheltered life!

Jalima1108 Mon 11-Dec-17 16:25:06

My Bristol relatives say 'I was led on the bed' whereas I say I lay on the bed.
Oh yes, gurt lush! grin

Jalima1108 Mon 11-Dec-17 16:26:39

Greyduster grin

Sorry, but plimsolls are pumps! And the cotton drawstring bag they go in with your name embroidered on the front by your mum was a 'pump bag'.

ninathenana Mon 11-Dec-17 16:39:18

sunseaker it always made me laugh to hear my Bristolian GM say "ideal" instead of idea etc. especially as she would insist she hadn't.
I thought it just her tchsmile
The family moved to Kent when mum was 14 but she didn't speak that way. She never lost her accent though.
My PGF used to call our hands puddies and dad always said flutterby not butterfly, which is better I think.

M0nica Mon 11-Dec-17 16:48:07

To me, with a travelling childhood through England and over seas spiflicating was a word of praise as in: 'We had spiflicating day' used to describe a lovely day out.

'Twitten' to describe an alley or ginnel goes farther than Sussex. In north Berkshire in 1468, yes I mean 1468, the man who was building the house I now live in was up before the manor court for blocking the twitten. An early case of a builder blocking a road with whatever was the 1468 equivalent of a skip!

CherryHatrick Mon 11-Dec-17 17:15:31

Nonnie my home town has a Barley Mow that rhymes with cow.

Jalima1108 Mon 11-Dec-17 17:19:53

I used to go to a pub called the Barley Mow that rhymes with cow - it was in a village near where I lived.

Jalima1108 Mon 11-Dec-17 17:23:32

A mow is a stack of hay
A barleymow is a stack of barley