Gransnet forums

Ask a gran

Embarrassing problem

(82 Posts)
SunnySusie Tue 29-May-18 17:42:43

I have accepted an invite to stay with a friend in the summer and now I dont think I can go through with it because of my embarrassing problem. Normally if I go away I stay in a B&B. The trouble is that I have to get up to go to the toilet not just once in the night, but normally three times. My friend and her partner live in a two bed flat and I am just going to be so embarrassed tramping around waking them up. When I saw the doctor about five years ago she recommended Pilates, which I have been doing ever since, but it hasnt helped. Apparently I have a slight prolapse, but not enought to merit surgery. I find if I restrict my drinking its a bit better, but then I get a headache, or I cant sleep from dehydration. I really dont know what to do and I dont feel I can explain to my hosts. Can anyone help?

sucraft Wed 30-May-18 13:03:45

I, too, have a prolaspe that does not require surgery. I was told to do pelvic floor exercises. These have helped me. I found it was not just nighttime that I had problems; I needed to know where loos were when I went out. It stopped me going out on visits and even to the theatre as I did not want to get up during performances and knew the queue for the ladies loos in the interval would be awful!

I like the idea of a portable urinal and I shall be buying extra raisins

gmelon Wed 30-May-18 13:10:42

Perhaps if a fridge jug is difficult to find then the plastic storage containers for breakfast cereals would work? They seal tight and have a pouring flap in the lid.

gmelon Wed 30-May-18 13:11:48

Weeing into a plastic container or jug would be quite noisy in the dead of night.

luzdoh Wed 30-May-18 13:38:37

Jane43 Thanks! Very kind of you! I shall go to pound shop for puppy pads, I'm always looking for cheapest! I have a rescued little dog with "special needs"!

albertina Wed 30-May-18 13:41:36

I agree with most folk here who say not to worry.

When I share a hotel room with a friend or stay in a friend's house, I put a couple of bits of toilet roll on the toilet lid to warn that they need to flush before they use it in the morning.

luzdoh Wed 30-May-18 13:42:26

gmelon I haven't noticed it being noisy, but if so, my friend's purpose made wee pot with female attachment would probably be quiet but only holds one wee. My other suggestion, using cat-litter (see above) might deaden the sound? However the disposal might be awkward in a friend's house....

muffinthemoo Wed 30-May-18 13:45:07

Three times is tbh not unusual at pretty much any age, I doubt she will even notice. But do let her know if its worrying you, I am certain she will reassure you that its fine!!

The Tena lights pants and pads are great for confidence if this bothers you in the day or you worry about sneezing etc when out and about. They are super absorbent and discreet.

Your GP will refer you without any question to the continence clinic for your area; this is where the specialist pelvic physios are based and they are really good.

Good luck xx

lollee Wed 30-May-18 13:45:26

This may or may not be helpful. Talking to friends I have found that many get up every night but it really shouldn't be so until very old or a health problem. I found myself getting up 2 or3 times per night in my early 60s and often thought....I'm awake so I may as well go. I then needed to stay with sister. She has a downstairs bathroom and it involved going down, across lounge, through kitchen then bootroom and disturbing dog before finally reaching the loo. Wide awake by then! So I began training myself and when waking did not go unless a very full bursting feeling. Finally went back to sleep and found after a few days i did not need to get up at all, hence able to enjoy visit to sis with no worry. Back home, i rarely get up although sometimes up by 6.30 and need to go. I think a lot of the problem is mind led and we can train our bodies, worth a try maybe?

luzdoh Wed 30-May-18 13:45:52

albertina How clever! The loo roll.

With your other stance I wholeheartedly agree, I'm sure a friend wouldn't mind at all. I do hope SunnySusie feels confident enough to tell her friend and to go and stay. This is a very common thing! She need not worry!

luzdoh Wed 30-May-18 13:49:23

lollee Wow lollee, not only do you have my childhood nickname, but I think you've hit my problem! I don't sleep well - pain wakes me. Every time I wake I think, better have a wee.... I will try your advice. I think this it it!
You are a genius!!!!

lollee Wed 30-May-18 13:55:46

Luzdoh, I am certainly not a genius but thanks! ? I just think lots of things in life are mind over matter and as we get older tend to expect this sort of stuff so in a way it is self fulfilling. I am surprised that so many people regard getting up 2 or 3 times as normal. When you sleep your body's organs go to sleep too so should not be disturbing your sleep. Good luck luzdoh and SunnySusie.

Marianne1953 Wed 30-May-18 16:57:45

I use Itouch pelvic floor exerciser. It may Reverse the part prolapse.

newnanny Wed 30-May-18 18:11:42

I have the same problem and I always go at least 3-4 times but if I have drunk a lot even 5 times. My husband who sleeps next to me does not even hear me get up and flush. Your hosts are unlikely to hear you and if they do it really does not matter. As we get older we all need to go more, most likely your friend and her husband too.

Fennel Wed 30-May-18 18:20:31

This is what we used in the old days;
www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/victorian-chamber-pot
Then empty in in the morning.
For those who need to go often, some blood pressure medications cause this. I was up nearly every hour, until a doctor changed my tablets.

mabon1 Wed 30-May-18 20:26:43

just tell them, they'll be fine about it

Hilmix Wed 30-May-18 21:45:58

What a landmine tipping is ! I have lived in France for ten years and when we first came to my region no-one tipped or expected to be tipped. Such a relief for me because I'd always hated doing it. It seemed as though you were doling out alms to those not as 'good' as yourself.
However, over the years it has crept in, some hairdressers expect it, some don't. Bar staff etc who we'd always left a small tip for anyway because they take your order and bring your coffee outside so we would leave a euro. Now I feel some sneer at that but they only do it once !
A gift at Christmas for a year of good service is the dignified way to thank people, I think.
When I visit my daughter in Texas patrons are expected to tip 20% !! My daughter says that the waitresses are so poorly paid and have no health insurance but surely the owners of these overpriced restaurants should be brought to book by the authorities.

starbird Wed 30-May-18 23:01:29

I have this problem when I stay with one of my sisters. She gets up herself so that's not an issue, but there is a very loud creaky floorboard outside of the bathroom which also runs into the bedroom I sleep in, and it is impossible for me to avoid stepping on it. Inevitably, every time I get up, as soon as I get back to bed, I hear my sister get up, woken by the sound of the floorboard!

But the most embarrassing thing was last time I was there, after I had had a ‘dump’ my sister remarked in a light conversational tone, that it was a pity that she could hear me when I go to the loo, but she supposed it didn’t matter as it was only the two of us! I was mortified. I try to put off using the bathroom until she is in the kitchen, the farthest room from the bathroom, or watching tv which is on loud as she is a bit deaf, but at the end of the day you have to go. I put paper in first to deaden the noise, but I have piles which can make it difficult and if I pass wind it is just a scientific fact that if air passes through a small gap it makes a noise. It is bad enough at home, as I live in a terraced property with adjoining bathrooms - I run a tap if I hear someone in the bathroom next door - but my sister lives in a detached bungalow. She married a divorced man much older than herself, (long since dead) didn’t like sex and had no children. We don’t normally talk about bodily functions - I have friends I feel more comfortable with, but she values ‘family’ and I doubt if either of us has more than a few years left so I don’t want to stop visiting while I still can ( usually only twice a year and she never comes to me as she cannot travel). But I can’t get over that remark!

Millie8 Thu 31-May-18 08:26:44

See your Dr again. There is ring that can be inserted to help a prolapse. There is also a tablet called vasopressin that reduces the amount of urine made in the night. If you explain your worries to the Dr it may be worth a try. Apologies if this has already been suggested. Good luck.

KirbyGirl Thu 31-May-18 10:43:45

Tried the raisins last night but still up three times. AArgh. However will try again - and practise self control during the day. It wasn't my post but am grateful for all the suggestions. Many thanks.

luzdoh Thu 31-May-18 11:33:03

gmelon A thought came to me in bed re your perspicacious observation of weeing in jug = noise! Maybe put some loo paper in the jug to deaden the sound?
Just a thought...

luzdoh Thu 31-May-18 11:40:36

lollee I feel argumentative grin therefore, you are a genius!
I heard somewhere that milk makes you wee. I love milk and drink it at bedtime in the hope that it will aid sleep (I know about tryptophan and serotonin! I'm retired neuropsychologist, the "psych" bit not much use when you want to know bodily functions esp. the bladder). But if it makes you need a wee....
You sound educated about these bodily things, do you know if this is so? Thanks.

luzdoh Thu 31-May-18 11:46:07

starbird
Your description:
I live in a terraced property with adjoining bathrooms reminds me,
We once lived in 400yr old terrace with bathrooms adjoining.
The first time I used the loo, as I sat enthrone, suddenly it was flushed! Actually, it was the loo on the other side of the paper thin wall! This "wall" had a gap underneath you could slide things through to your neighbour should you wish!! You could hear everything!

gmelon Thu 31-May-18 14:41:33

luzdoh You've made me chuckle.
I've now got this image of a jug full of wee and disintegrated toilet paper sloshing around as OP carries it . Oh dear . Yuk. ]smile

gmelon Thu 31-May-18 14:53:18

I'd be unhappy if my guests felt unable to use the wc freely.
I'd not mind being disturbed while they were with me. We have to be hospitable to visitors and especially to friends.
I'd also find it a bit distasteful to have someone weeing and keeping wee in a jug til morning in my spare rooms.

M0nica Thu 31-May-18 20:27:58

It was only after we had moved out of the house involved that my very dear MiL told me that after 5 years of sleeping in our visitors room, sandwiched between the bathroom and master suite ensuite, there was nothing she did not know about the bathroom use of every member of the family. shock