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Naty Thu 28-Nov-19 21:29:51

Hi, I'm looking for advice. I'm 34 years old. I've been married for two years, with husband for 10. We have a four month old and live in Italy. I love my in-laws. They are always there when we need them and paid for a good portion of the house we live in (they wanted us to be helped while they're alive now instead of inheriting money). This is our first child, their fourth grandchild, but the others are 10 years and older. Ours was a much anticipated baby.

We live 400 meters away from them and my MIL is frequently walking by on her way to grocery shop and other errands. She comes right up to the windows and looks in to see if I'm home...it's getting me upset because this can be any time during the day and I'm on mat-leave. I want to enjoy this baby fully, as well as the time I have at home. So far, we usually go over for Saturday lunch and then I make an effort to call them over for a visit every other day or I go there. I always call to see what they are doing first. My issue is, my MIL "is just dropping by" on her way to and from places...but we are ALWAYS on the way...I want her to call before coming. The baby sleeps a lot and I breastfeed her a lot. I don't mind them there when I'm feeding her, but they've peered in the windows and knocked on them while I'm on the couch and I have no choice but to get up and unlock the door for them...the baby wakes and cries..this has happened twice. Other times my MIL comes and doesn't knock, but calls my name. I'm usually upstairs with the baby putting her to sleep and I don't hear her. Then the MIL goes home and calls me to see where I've been. The last straw was the other day I closed all of the shutters at 5pm and had a shower..i get out to draw my baby a bath and my in-laws are at the door calling my name softly but not knocking in case they wake the baby. I ignored them and gave my baby a bath. Pissed! I was so angry. .i have told them to call me before coming many times, but they still show up randomly.

The next day my baby and I visited them (i called first) and they were so happy to see us. They said they had come to the door and I told them i had heard them but didnt answer because we were naked and i was too frazzeled in that moment and to please call before...they were like "oh yes, of course! We didn't have the phone with us. We were just stopping by."

How do I get them to understand? Am I being unreasonable or selfish? They see their grandchild every second day...but the close proximity makes me an easy target for an MIL who doesn't drive. I'm pissed because her own daughter doesn't have to deal with this...but in.all fairness the in-laws and all their friends tend to be stopper-by people. I'm sure it's a generational and cultural thjng

But I'm stressed out and want it to stop. My husband agrees but I haven't sent him to speak on my behalf yet. Help!

Summerlove Mon 02-Dec-19 23:38:36

Putting up a sign, to me, says that they are fine to keep stopping by whenever the sign is not out. It doesn’t reinforce the behaviour you want. Which is a call or text before a visit

Naty Mon 02-Dec-19 23:40:39

I guess she's just lonely... they are very active and always looking for something to do!

Naty Mon 02-Dec-19 23:41:17

True

Summerlove Mon 02-Dec-19 23:44:14

Don’t get me wrong, I think you’re very kind. I don’t think that should stop.

You just need to reclaim your space and time. Some people love constant company. Others, like me, really struggle with it. I’m absolutely Coming at this from an introverted bias.

Naty Mon 02-Dec-19 23:46:03

I'm afraid my husband won't be tactful...but you're right. He probably will be able to get the message across better than I can...

Naty Mon 02-Dec-19 23:49:06

I'm a slight extrovert, but I'm very reflective and I enjoy being alone too! I do not like surprises or unpredictable things happening, but I can be spontaneous, for sure. It just has to be thoughtful.

Naty Mon 02-Dec-19 23:50:32

I'd feel too bad doing that.

Naty Mon 02-Dec-19 23:52:58

Well...we'll see if she does it again...but at this point I don't even want to invite them over because she'll find an excuse to drop by earlier and check in... like "see you later!" ...ugh... I wish this wasn't so difficult ...

Summerlove Tue 03-Dec-19 23:22:53

Were you able to speak to your MIL today? How did it go?

Naty Wed 04-Dec-19 09:08:20

I never spoke with her, as she never appeared. I'm thinking she's going to the every other day schedule. I'll call them over in the afternoon if they are up for a visit. But I'll hold off speaking to them until the next pop up. I'll get my husband to talk to them.

We have a family chat on WhatsApp and all of my family members agree with gentle nudging instead of being too direct. They love my in-laws! They say she'd take it better from my husband. I'll update this thread if there are new developments.

Naty Wed 04-Dec-19 09:09:59

And yes, even sitting on the couch this morning, I was expecting a knock on the window behind me... disturbing...

Naty Wed 04-Dec-19 09:10:16

I must have visiting PTSD!

ReadyMeals Wed 04-Dec-19 13:08:01

She probably feels a bit embarrassed about having overstepped before. She'll get over it, you all will.

Summerlove Wed 04-Dec-19 15:54:28

I wish you luck Naty.

It just makes me sad thinking of you sitting on your own couch being tense sad

love0c Wed 04-Dec-19 16:05:15

All sounds a bit tense really for all of you. It is hard to know exactly who is at 'fault' in all honestly. We only have posts to go on. This may sound harsh and many may disagree with me but I do tend to think if you want to be independent it may have been a poor decision to accept, what you describe as a large amount of money from them. I think this most probably gave the impression you were happy to have them involved in your life. I have always found when going to other countries the 'family' consists of a few generations. They all spend a lot of time together involved in one and other's life. They certainly have a lot of good points. Maybe try to encourage and praise them for these. They may realise themselves then what annoys you and stop it. Don't fall out whatever you do!

Summerlove Wed 04-Dec-19 17:10:34

I think this most probably gave the impression you were happy to have them involved in your life.

I haven’t read Naty suggest otherwise, or anyone suggest that?

Surely people are owed peace in their own homes though aren’t they? All she is asking for is a heads up before somebody comes to visit. Not wanting a family member peeping in your windows certainly doesn’t equal not wanting them involved in my world

love0c Wed 04-Dec-19 17:23:41

Summerlove, with respect, the next sentence follows and is so relevant.

SirChenjin Wed 04-Dec-19 17:41:29

Why would accepting a family gift of money equal ‘please feel free to ignore my repeated polite requests and instead carry on peering through my windows and not giving me my own space’? confused

My friend is married to an Italian and receive a lot of financial support from his family. They are close to his family but there are boundaries that are respected by all - as it should be. Not falling out in this case appears to require the OP to tiptoe around these adults for fear of upsetting them - whilst they in turn appear to have little or no respect for the OP. She is fully entitled to say ‘enough is enough’ without having to worry about the fallout to the extent she is. Families should not have to dance to their elders’ tune to keep them happy, there has to be a level of mutual respect and understanding.

Naty Wed 04-Dec-19 18:48:49

Yes..maybe you're right!

Naty Wed 04-Dec-19 18:51:36

I never officially accepted any money because we were not married at the time. I was a live-in girlfriend with no immediate marriage plans. Apparently my husband was going to build the house regardless of my being there or not. And his sister received the samrme sum, but lives 15km away.

Naty Wed 04-Dec-19 18:53:15

My own family is exceedingly close, but we respect boundaries and seek out quality time by arranging long, extended visits...not 10 min here and there randomly

GagaJo Wed 04-Dec-19 18:55:10

Sounds like sister knew her family well.

love0c Wed 04-Dec-19 19:24:09

Naty of course you want your own boundaries and indeed are entitled to them. I think you have a lot going for you with your IL's so would hate you to fall out. Keep trying and have 'excuses' ready when they leave. Say really busy tomorrow but I/you call the day after. If they do call, say sorry really busy, will see you tomorrow. They will adapt. I don't know them but you are not giving the impression they have shown malice. Coming from someone who never really had help from IL's I guess I actually wish I had enjoyed some of what you are getting with your IL's.

Naty Wed 04-Dec-19 20:25:12

My in laws are amazing. Period. I won't fall out with them over this. I'll just explain that I'm feeling anxious with all the changes in my life (if they ask)...but it might not come to that. I'm hoping, at least!

love0c Wed 04-Dec-19 20:46:13

Brilliant decision Naty! You sound really positive as well. Just a thought if they do pop in uninvited and you really wish they hadn't, ask them to do job or two!! Could you wash up, really big help. Sort the washing, go to the shops, you need a big shop etc etc. That might cut down their visits, ha ha. Stay happy!