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Anxious time, what to do?

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hollysteers Fri 23-Oct-20 11:18:15

My single younger brother in Scotland is going through a very bad time, his son is in prison, has mental issues and is on the phone to him every day affecting his health and well-being. He has a couple of trials coming up and my brother dreads him being let out next year sometime, but nothing is certain. He is a rather dangerous individual sadly and wants to return to live with my brother (his mother is dead) which would be a disaster.
My brother would like to stay with me for a break for a few days as he does in normal circumstances as we are very close, but I am in Level 3 and not sure what to do. I would love to give him a much needed break, I have plenty of space to keep our distance. Would this situation fall into vital care or similar?

Sooze58 Sun 25-Oct-20 11:13:42

Just read that back and notice my errors! An awful situation for your brother. I would have him stay subject to isolation!

Sooze58 Sun 25-Oct-20 11:11:47

I feel for you, but you haven’t said what tier your brother (likewise your son) is unless I’ve missed it. I think it is a welfare situation but regardless of that you both want to be safe - Covid takes no account of welfare! I would have gone but somehow one or both of you need to isolate before or after, dependent on risk and tiers. What an awful situation fir your son to be in. All the best.

Jillybird Sun 25-Oct-20 11:06:59

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Dee1012 Sun 25-Oct-20 11:05:33

There's an organisation called "Families Outside" who offer support to the families of people in prison (Scotland). I'd suggest contacting them for advice.
Regarding your brother....of course he should stay with you for a break, while I appreciate the time we are in, I also think there are some things that are more important.

Craftycat Sun 25-Oct-20 11:01:34

Of course you must let your brother come to stay if he wants to.
The guidelines are just that- guidelines.
You will feel so ,much better having him rather than worrying about him all the time & I'm sure he needs the break.
Good luck with it all.

icanhandthemback Sun 25-Oct-20 10:58:15

Hollysteers, my daughter has mental health issues and we are allowed to have her visit. I also visit her because of her issues. My mother is also in need of my help so I have to go in and out of her house. If it wasn't me, it would be 2 different carers who were mixing with many other people. My daughter's last carer had to got when she was still partying through lockdown! None of it is ideal and I am exhausted but much needed, corona virus or not.

Illte Sun 25-Oct-20 10:53:46

I think you should, in good conscience, ask yourself how likely it is that this action will spread the virus. It is what we should all ask ourselves every time, regardless of "rules" which cannot cover every individual circumstance.

So what you consider is what is the level of infection in his area? How much does he mix with others? How will he get to you? If the incidence in his area is low, he only goes out for food and he's coming in his car, the risk that he will add oread the virus is minimal.

Then think about his short break with you. You are in an area of high infection. How much do you go out? Will you and he go out while he is with you? Again his travel arrangements, will he mix with others? Will he be mixing when he gets home again?

Depending on the answer to these question the risk of his spreading the virus is moderate to very high.

If it's high or very high then I would suggest that the good of others trumps his need for a break and your need to support him.

Sometimes we need to use our head rather than our heart.

grannie7 Sun 25-Oct-20 10:46:26

grannybuy
Your right I didn’t register that post
apologies to all

grannybuy Sun 25-Oct-20 10:40:52

The very first post was also from the OP, saying that she is in a bubble with a son, but sees him infrequently. It was slightly confusing.

Kseniya Sun 25-Oct-20 10:39:43

if I correctly understood the situation now.
psychological therapy is important to him! today, psychological health is no less important than physical, if it is possible for someone to do this - help him! so that his life can return to normal.
patience and strength to you!

Esspee Sun 25-Oct-20 10:36:25

Have him visit and perhaps look into ways of him moving closer to you so that he can get away from his son.

Suzey Sun 25-Oct-20 10:34:11

Let him come and stay stop worrying

EllanVannin Sun 25-Oct-20 10:32:01

To save unnecessary worry for yourself and your brother, have him there with you. It's as simple as that !

lemsip Sun 25-Oct-20 10:28:18

it's the posters 'single younger Brother who has a son'!!! NOT the posters son. re read the original post if not sure!

silverlining48 Sun 25-Oct-20 10:27:45

Suggest your brother takes Iams good advice re contacting the prison with his concerns.

Soozikinzi Sun 25-Oct-20 10:23:22

Yes I agree with everyone else let him come and stay as part of your bubble

polnan Sun 25-Oct-20 10:22:16

I would have my brother stay with me..

only wish he was still alive..

grannie7 Sun 25-Oct-20 10:16:23

The OP hasn’t said she is
already in a bubble so there is
no need to worry her brother
needs help so if it were me and
I had no bubble I would do one with
my brother if of cause I had been
lucky to have one.

Dibbydod Sun 25-Oct-20 10:15:55

Absolutely without a doubt I’d have him to stay , his health for you both is far more important . I personally wouldn’t have it any other way . We are only human after all and family is family .

hicaz46 Sun 25-Oct-20 10:14:10

Yes see him. Some people seem confused. He is your brother with a son, your nephew who is in prison. No mention of your son, or whether you are in a bubble with anyone else. I am sure the situation would fall into health, caring responsibilities. Good luck with your decision.

RoMo Sun 25-Oct-20 10:04:33

Absolutely see him. I would and I know from first hand experience what's it's like to have a close relative going through these issues. Your brother's good mental health is essential.

DeeDum Sun 25-Oct-20 09:43:44

Become his bubble, if your not in one already with someone even if you are perhaps both try to isolate as much as possible from others in the run up to his arrival.. and then make him your bubble..

Alioop Sun 25-Oct-20 09:33:44

Let him come stay, he really needs you. Hope it all works out for you all. x

BazingaGranny Sun 25-Oct-20 09:29:15

My understanding is that relationship breakdown, and or mental health issues, would allow your brother to stay with you.

Best wishes to all your family in this troubling and difficult time for you all. ?

M0nica Sat 24-Oct-20 09:33:08

In which case end the bubble with son, allow 2 weeks quarantine, then bubble with brother.