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Toddler Only Wants To Wee In Garden

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Naninka Thu 12-Aug-21 23:56:37

My daughter-in-law is becoming very anxious about her son (my DGS) because he won't use the potty or toilet. However, he is completely dry, including nights.
So where does he wee? In their garden, in my garden, behind a bush, anywhere outdoors.
He holds a number 2 for his own garden but does likes to see it flushed down the loo by his mummy or daddy.
We have tried everything we can think of!
It's so frustrating and is holding him back from us taking him places like soft play, farm park, etc.
Any suggestions, oh wise ones?
I'm particularly interested to know if anyone else has experienced this with a toddler and how they overcame it.

Peasblossom Fri 13-Aug-21 09:58:15

I thought that too Alegrias but didn’t dare to post it?

lemongrove Fri 13-Aug-21 10:46:32

Alegrias1

There's a thread going on where people are questioning why I don't think children should automatically get invited to weddings. I think I'm vindicated. wink

No, you aren’t.
Most people think that children are a joy and enrich our lives.
A few think they are nothing more than inconvenient nuisances.I think that’s a miserable point of view although they are entitled to their opinion.

Alegrias1 Fri 13-Aug-21 10:51:07

OK. You're right and I'm wrong. hmm

It's a lighthearted comment Lemongrove. Really, don't take it to heart.

lemongrove Fri 13-Aug-21 11:01:25

I don’t take anything to heart on forums ( that way lies madness)?
Just my opinion....on an opinions thread.

GagaJo Fri 13-Aug-21 11:02:04

Alegrias1

There's a thread going on where people are questioning why I don't think children should automatically get invited to weddings. I think I'm vindicated. wink

I agree Alegrias1, and I adore my outside peeing grandson. Absolute apple of my eye, BUT I can see that at times he's a monster and would not be welcome at someone's wedding.

In relation to the topic, the ABSOLUTE worst and the event that instigated a very strong talking to with DGS was when he was at a part, happily playing on the climbing frame, pulled his shorts down and yelled 'I need a wee!' (likes to announce it) and yanked his pants down. I ricocheted over (didn't know I could move that fast) yelling 'Noooooooooooooo.' Fortunately I got there in time and yanked him down and over to a bush. LONG talk about where it is OK and not OK to wee.

He's much better now. He always asks if we're out now so we can find the nearest loo.

GagaJo Fri 13-Aug-21 11:02:45

Not a part, a PARK!

GraceQuirrel Fri 13-Aug-21 11:16:31

eazybee

Lock the doors to the garden.
After this child has urinated on the carpets a few times I expect his mother will discover ways of persuading him use the lavatory.

Just what I was thinking.

grandtanteJE65 Fri 13-Aug-21 11:24:23

For goodness sake: Stop making a fuss about this.

We have been told the child is a toddler, so presumably he is still not two.

Let him wee where he wants to for the rest of the summer and don't comment on it.

When the weather gets colder it will be a good time to re-introduce the topic of weeing in the toilet or in a potty.

Above all the child's mother must not show that she is worried about this, as the child will pick up on his mother's anxiety and things will get worse, as he cannot at his age understand what is worrying her.

Yes, we were potty trained at eighteen months or two years and so were our children, but the trend today is towards late potty training - too late in my opinion, but I have learned to hold my tongue.

I don't know if Freud was right about severe potty training leading to mental disorders, but I do know that the more fuss you make about bed-wetting, weeing outdoors or not eating properly with a two year old the worse it will become.

Gwenisgreat1 Fri 13-Aug-21 11:25:03

I’m sure as soon as he mixes with other children at nursery he will get the message!

Whitewavemark2 Fri 13-Aug-21 11:26:41

He won’t be doing it when he is 20?. Relax it is just a phase.

Willow68 Fri 13-Aug-21 11:29:16

Maybe a bit deep, but going back to frued toddlers hold their pooh as a way of controlling adults, it’s the first thing they find tbat they can have control over… just go to the farm go out etc many may not agree with me but the theory is proven and maybe take a look at it , good luck whatever you do x

Theoddbird Fri 13-Aug-21 11:29:50

Making a big deal about this makes the child see that he has some control over his parents. Try to ignore it. When the child does not get a reaction he will stop...

Marjgran Fri 13-Aug-21 11:36:36

Goodness! It is a phase - something has convinced him this is best. Ignore and reward all indoors peeing - an immediate small gift or a star! Just as his baby friends won’t get married in -nappies, he won’t be peeing outdoors as a grown up.

NemosMum Fri 13-Aug-21 11:47:52

Toilets can be frightening for little ones - the fear of falling in and being flushed away etc! Get a suitable toilet seat and step to increase confidence. DON'T make a fuss! If you do, you will be storing up trouble for the future. Some children become toilet refusers as a means of maintaining control. This has to be handled kindly and consistently. Worth reading Chris Green in the latest edition of Toddler Taming.

Aepgirl Fri 13-Aug-21 11:49:36

I’ve heard that the ping-pong ball works well.

Zoejory Fri 13-Aug-21 11:52:28

Whitewavemark2

He won’t be doing it when he is 20?. Relax it is just a phase.

Sad fact is he might be!

Couple of pints of beer and anywhere's a great spot to urinate.

Actually they don't even need to be drunk!

lizzypopbottle Fri 13-Aug-21 11:53:42

I've just read the OP again and it says he holds his 'number two' for his own garden implying that he also does that in the garden! Do the parents then collect the faeces and take them indoors to flush them away? Seriously weird! Caught short and peeing in the garden isn't so bad if he's already playing outside but going outside specifically for that is a different matter.

Urine is sterile and not/shouldn't be disgusting. It contains urea, which eventually breaks down to ammonia, hence the characteristic smell and skin irritation caused by being in nappies. Faeces, on the other hand, are a health hazard. Both belong down the toilet.

GagaJo Fri 13-Aug-21 12:00:46

Zoejory

Whitewavemark2

He won’t be doing it when he is 20?. Relax it is just a phase.

Sad fact is he might be!

Couple of pints of beer and anywhere's a great spot to urinate.

Actually they don't even need to be drunk!

Or 73 ?. Naming no names.

Thing is, it isn't acceptable around other people. So, no, in my garden I don't care about a wee in the grass/up the plants really. BUT it isn't acceptable in public.

We all know it's a stage they go through but by 3 (the OP's grandson & my GS's age) they are old enough to know better.

4allweknow Fri 13-Aug-21 12:01:18

Bluebellwould I have twin sons. When trying to teach them to use the toilet DH did take them to show them how to. Unfortunately midstream sons decided that this waterfall was for playing with and put their hands up to the "waterfall". You can imagine the commotion!

CrazyGrandma2 Fri 13-Aug-21 12:06:58

Put a ping pong ball in the potty/loo and get him to aim at it. Also might improve his aim for later in life wink

Teddy123 Fri 13-Aug-21 12:08:44

Does he go to nursery, does he see mummy/daddy peeing in the loo, does his daddy ever pee in the garden, etc etc. Have you chatted to daughter about it.
I like the ping pong ball idea!
I hope you can help them resolve this issue. We all want our offspring to be 'individuals' but have to have a few rules. I had loo seat with an inner smaller hole for my GC and a little step to rest their feet on when doing a poo. Makes it easier!
Good Luck

Mollygo Fri 13-Aug-21 12:16:31

Alegrias1

There's a thread going on where people are questioning why I don't think children should automatically get invited to weddings. I think I'm vindicated. wink

????

hilz Fri 13-Aug-21 12:18:54

No No No. We don't wee in a garden and absolutly never poo in the garden. A toilet is no distance away when you are home.
Why is it that boys are allowed to do this far more than girls.?
Yes sometimes there may be an outside emergency away from home but reinforce the fact that its an emergency. Just imagine as a nation if we all peed or pooped where ever we wanted. Oh my!!

FarNorth Fri 13-Aug-21 12:21:11

It's so frustrating and is holding him back from us taking him places like soft play, farm park, etc.

Arrange to go to one of these places, have a talk with him, telling him what will be expected and then keep a very close eye on him when there, so that he can be hurried into a toilet if necessary.

It is the adults' responsibility to check that a toilet is nearby and to make sure that the child has opportunities to use it.
Do not leave the whole thing to the child to think about and decide.

Zoejory Fri 13-Aug-21 12:26:57

GagaJo

Zoejory

Whitewavemark2

He won’t be doing it when he is 20?. Relax it is just a phase.

Sad fact is he might be!

Couple of pints of beer and anywhere's a great spot to urinate.

Actually they don't even need to be drunk!

Or 73 ?. Naming no names.

Thing is, it isn't acceptable around other people. So, no, in my garden I don't care about a wee in the grass/up the plants really. BUT it isn't acceptable in public.

We all know it's a stage they go through but by 3 (the OP's grandson & my GS's age) they are old enough to know better.

I know what you mean, GagaJo I've just remembered. My father was a terror for it. I went round once and there he was, watering the hydrangeas. At 86.

I pointed out that he had the choice of 3 loos but he thought I was being ridiculous .

Good for the plants he yelled