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Bedtime bad behaviour

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sodapop Mon 16-Aug-21 21:38:47

I agree with SueDonim and others, that is far too early for bedtime. I think you need to negotiate with the parents about setting up a more realistic night time routine. They should be taking the lead in this.

Grannynannywanny Mon 16-Aug-21 21:37:54

I’ve got my 7 and 6 yr old GC staying with me for a few days. Their normal bedtime at home on a school night is 7pm. I stretch that to 7.45-8pm at mine while no school.

I think you’d find it easier to settle them with a later bedtime. Do they sleep through the night when they eventually settle? It seems a long stretch from 4pm dinner till morning. I think hunger would waken my GC very early if they hadn’t eaten since 4.

CanadianGran Mon 16-Aug-21 21:33:01

That's really early to bed. They should probably go to bed around 8,so get ready at 7.

If the parents insist they go to bed that early, just make sure the kids have entertainment (books or teddies) so they can stay in their room and fall asleep on their own.

When mine sleep over, one goes to bed quite easily, the other doesn't. I think it is more their nature, but they need to understand when it is time to go to bed, they need to stay in their rooms. My little G-daughter will talk and sing to her dollies for over an hour before she settles. She is 5 now. Her older brother 7 will sleep almost right away after he lays down.

PaperMonster Mon 16-Aug-21 21:28:42

I’d suggest as someone else has, an evening walk after tea. A bath every evening at those ages really isn’t necessary and can often make them more awake than winding them down. Then each of you in a different bedroom to do bedtime story and sit whilst they fall asleep. It shouldn’t take so long with a more reasonable bedtime.

SueDonim Mon 16-Aug-21 21:20:07

Oh dear, GrandmaKT! It is a very early time, especially at this time of year when it’s still so light in the evenings.

I’d definitely tell their parents that unless they have a better bedtime routine you can’t take them overnight.

PaperMonster Mon 16-Aug-21 21:18:46

Sorry, thought they were at yours hence my bedroom comment.

PaperMonster Mon 16-Aug-21 21:17:41

Goodness me! No wonder they’re playing up. That’s way too early! Also, do they have to be in separate rooms?

rosie1959 Mon 16-Aug-21 21:17:03

The parents seem to have left you with a bit of a problem by putting children of this age to bed late afternoon no wonder they play up
My grandaughter is 3 and has a 7 o'clock bed time
I would put them to bed at 7.30 with a short story non negotiable that they then settle for sleep

Joyfulnanna Mon 16-Aug-21 21:00:51

'Ragged'

Joyfulnanna Mon 16-Aug-21 20:59:42

Sounds like they're running you tagged.. A walk before bedtime, then bath sounds in order and a later bedtime while they are staying with you perhaps. Don't negotiate. It's hard when you've got them all day then have to deal with bedtime antics!

Polarbear2 Mon 16-Aug-21 20:58:58

Wow that’s early! My GCs are 2and 4 and they go to bed at 7. TV from 5.30 to 6.30. (CBeebies is lovely at that time) Bath at 6.30, story and bed. We don’t have many problems. That doesn’t help you of course. I have no solutions unfortunately but I do sympathise. Hope you get it sorted.

GrandmaKT Mon 16-Aug-21 20:57:54

That would be water off a duck's back SueDonim, they just wouldn't believe it!

SueDonim Mon 16-Aug-21 20:56:54

Maybe tell the children they won’t stay again unless they behave!

Trisha57 Mon 16-Aug-21 20:54:58

Those times do seem rather early for a 5 and 7 year old. Our 5 year old grandson has his bath at 7 when he is with us, ready for bed at 7.30 with bedtime story and he drops off pretty quickly. Our 9 year old GD is about at hour later, and usually has a book to take to bed to read herself and, again, she is usually asleep when we look in on her about 20 minutes later. Perhaps they are just not ready for sleep at that early time...........

GrandmaKT Mon 16-Aug-21 20:45:29

We are currently looking after our GC (aged 5 and 7) while their parents have a couple of nights away.

We can cope during the daytime, they are boisterous, lively children with lots of energy, but we have lots of activities planned and have had a lovely couple of days.

The problems come at bedtime. Their normal routine is that they have dinner at 4pm and start getting ready for bed at 5pm. This involves both of them reading and their mum and/or dad reading them a story. However long and drawn out this is, though, it always ends with them fighting and laughing at each other, running in and out of each others bedrooms, hiding, saying the want a drink, need the toilet etc etc. After much shouting and cajoling, one parent usually stands guard on the landing while the rest of the household has to remain in absolute silence for 30-40 mins while they go to sleep. The whole rigmarole takes one and a half to two hours.

While we have been looking after them, we have allowed them to stay up til 6pm (which is still pretty early), and shortened the bedtime routine to one bedtime story. (Having explained to them that we are letting them stay up later on the understanding that they behave at bedtime). Obviously though, they still continue the running around, laughing, fighting etc. No amount of reasoning, threats, promises work, they just laugh in our faces. We are exhausted.
I'm thinking of telling my DS and DDil that unless they get this sorted we cannot look after them again, which would be a shame as we do love the daytimes with them.