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Should you serve alcohol at an event when there is an alcoholic present?

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vegansrock Fri 29-Oct-21 08:39:32

Should/ would you serve alcohol at an event when a family member is an alcoholic who has asked for our support? They are getting help and it is all out in the open. We would normally have a celebratory glass of fizz or two to celebrate the event. The question is whether to go alcohol free at this event but don’t want to spoil others’ enjoyment of the occasion, particularly the person who the celebration is for. Is it more supportive to be completely alcohol free or just to help them enjoy an occasion where there maybe alcohol but they aren’t drinking it? Wonder if anyone has experience of this?

Anneeba Sun 31-Oct-21 15:25:25

Um, not alcoholic gas though that may be what they burp, an alcoholic HAS etc... Fat fingers

songstress60 Sun 31-Oct-21 16:24:23

They don't have to attend if they have no will power. You can't hold the party just to suit them. Isn't it a lifestyle choice rather than an illness?

kevincharley Sun 31-Oct-21 17:20:34

I'd suggest going alcohol free, as much for the benefit of the drinkers as the alcoholic.
People, in general, are too dependent on alcohol to have a good time.
Instead of offering adult alternatives offer the guests Cream Soda, Dandelion & Burdock, Lilt, Rubicon. I'd put money on them enjoying it!

Daisend1 Sun 31-Oct-21 17:22:28

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Olive53 Sun 31-Oct-21 17:22:54

Get them alcohol free drinks, don’t think it’s fair that everyone else who may enjoy an alcoholic beverage should have to go without to be honest.

Sarnia Sun 31-Oct-21 17:25:24

Having been married to an alcoholic, I am afraid they have to accept that drinking is a large part of our social events. I would make them aware that alcohol will be there and give them the option whether they turn up or prefer to stay away.

Dickens Sun 31-Oct-21 17:25:31

Gabrielle56

This is so very interesting! Those who feel strongly that booze should be allowed by human rights(!) Are getting very aereated at the idea that they be denied their tipple!?! Wonder why? Is it that they feel they actually need alcohol in order to enjoy themselves? Certainly sounds like it! Maybe the problem of excessive drinking is more widespread than some think?

... really? Has anyone mentioned that drinking alcohol is a "human right"?

I've been teetotal for nearly 30 years - I simply don't like the taste of alcohol, but have a large circle of friends who do enjoy a drink... none that I know of drink to excess, they just enjoy a glass of wine or whatever, or a "tipple" at a get together.

If someone is an alcoholic, it's up to them to choose whether or not to attend a gathering at which alcohol is likely to be served - and up to the host to provide alternatives... which most seem to do these days.

It's about choices - one person's misfortune with alcohol should not mean that everyone else has to forgo it. It is not a crime to drink - unless you become a danger or obnoxious, and your snide accusations are just that - snide.

MavisCabbage Sun 31-Oct-21 17:39:07

No l am not an ignoramus. I have lived with two alcoholics so l do know something about alcoholics. Sure, an alcoholic has a problem: it is THEIR problem for which no one else should have to change their behaviour.

MavisCabbage Sun 31-Oct-21 17:43:11

I am not desperate to drink at all. I am just heartily sick of being told that alcoholics have a disease

LovelyLady Sun 31-Oct-21 17:54:05

Alcohol free. Are our lives so bad that we need Alcohol? We have cigarette free areas it’s time alcohol was given the same press. Evidently if booze was newly introduced now, it would be illegal so time to stand up for your friend. Feel the love.

M0nica Sun 31-Oct-21 19:28:08

As with any food or drink, alcohol is no better or worse than any other foodstuff. It entirely depends on how much you consume.

I had a small glass of wine on Thursday and a pint of shandy today. The amount of alcohol I consumed was minute and it acted neither as a tranquillizer nor intoxicant. I simply hadn't consumed enough and I didn't want anymore and refused another glass of wine for just that reason, no form of virtuous abstention or rigid control was required.

rosie1959 Sun 31-Oct-21 20:01:20

songstress60

They don't have to attend if they have no will power. You can't hold the party just to suit them. Isn't it a lifestyle choice rather than an illness?

Willpower is about as useful with alcoholism as it is with diarrhoea
To anybody that thinks it is a lifestyle choice they are sadly totally misinformed
I suppose in the same way you could say anyone that is suffering from depression is making a lifestyle choice

Doodledog Sun 31-Oct-21 20:10:27

I don't think that anyone has mentioned the fact that not all people who have issues with alcohol want others to know about it. Even though the term 'alcoholic' is not used in medical circles nowadays, there is still a stigma attached for some people, and if they are struggling with that stigma they may well want to keep it to themselves.

Offering alternatives such as non-alcoholic fizz to have at the toast means that everyone can choose for themselves without anyone being any the wiser. It must be embarrassing for someone who has taken the steps towards getting sober to have to do so in the spotlight, and making an event that would usually include a drink into a teetotal one might risk doing that.

CarrieAnn Sun 31-Oct-21 20:15:26

I al ways say my husbands only kept me for fifty three years because I don't smoke or drink and never have so I'm very cheap to run!

rosie1959 Sun 31-Oct-21 20:15:37

I have found Doodledog that most people have no interest in why I don't drink and have found through many years of experience that if anyone questions me incessantly they may well have a problem
Some try to say go on one won't hurt I advise them the established we are in wouldn't have enough alcohol if I have just one

GillT57 Sun 31-Oct-21 20:16:57

Crikey there are some strange attitudes to alcohol on here! Sloppy and judgemental language too with words like "booze". While the OP's question was a sensible one, it is an eye opener, in this day and time, to read that some still do not consider alcoholism as a disease and think that it is either self indulgent, a lack of self control or simply a life style choice. Like the majority of people, I can and do enjoy a glass or two of wine, sometimes 2 or 3 times a week, sometimes not for several weeks.

Doodledog Sun 31-Oct-21 21:04:00

rosie1959

I have found Doodledog that most people have no interest in why I don't drink and have found through many years of experience that if anyone questions me incessantly they may well have a problem
Some try to say go on one won't hurt I advise them the established we are in wouldn't have enough alcohol if I have just one

No, but maybe if you had been known as 'a drinker' it would stand out more if you had orange juice at a family party.

I'm not bothered either way if there is alcohol at a party, but like others have said, as a non-drinker I wouldn't like to be offered squash, particularly for a toast.

rosie1959 Sun 31-Oct-21 21:10:00

Lol Doodledog probably didn't make myself clear I am an alcoholic in recovery
I have been known to drink...a lot ..buy not for many years

M0nica Sun 31-Oct-21 21:17:41

For years I didn't drink, I do not particularly enjoy the taste, no one ever said anything to me to suggest that I might be a recovering alcoholic, nor, with one exception, did anyone try to press me to drink alcohol when I did not want to.

Purplepoppies Mon 01-Nov-21 07:01:29

As a now sober alcoholic I would not choose a non alcoholic version of an alcoholic drink. It would be too much temptation for me, even 10 years down the line.
I think speaking to the person in question is the way to go.

maddyone Mon 01-Nov-21 08:43:45

kevincharley

I'd suggest going alcohol free, as much for the benefit of the drinkers as the alcoholic.
People, in general, are too dependent on alcohol to have a good time.
Instead of offering adult alternatives offer the guests Cream Soda, Dandelion & Burdock, Lilt, Rubicon. I'd put money on them enjoying it!

Seriously? I can hardly believe I’ve just read that. People don’t hold a party, soirée, or gathering in order to teach them about life style choices. Or in this case, no choices.

maddyone Mon 01-Nov-21 08:47:34

……I wouldn’t like to be offered squash, particularly as a toast.

Neither would I Doodledog. I’m not a non drinker, but if I held a party and there was going to be a toast, I would offer sparkling apple/grape juice as an alternative. I would use flutes for the alcohol and the non alcoholic alternative.

GillT57 Mon 01-Nov-21 13:08:04

I would hate to be offered squash, I am not five.

M0nica Mon 01-Nov-21 13:28:37

kevincharley i would hate the lot. They all have aspartame in them.

Calistemon Mon 01-Nov-21 19:21:17

GillT57

I would hate to be offered squash, I am not five.

?
I don't like squash

maddyone
Seriously? I can hardly believe I’ve just read that. People don’t hold a party, soirée, or gathering in order to teach them about life style choices. Or in this case, no choices.

Me neither.
Although I do like a Lilt on a warm, sunny day - about once a year.